Just conducting a poll out of interest - there are rumours out there of a number of failures - any input?

 

Dave

I'd put it down to your driving style Don't tell me you've broken it already?

Chris

 

Not sure about engine failure, but I am starting to worry about my clutch, which seems to smell a lot....

Don't know if it is anything to worry about yet, but never had anything like this on my MY00.

Will mention it at 10k service, unless I see someone else on here with similiar issue.

Cheers

Simon

 

Clutches can smell if they are slipped, even the slightest bit whilst maneouvering the car, particularly in reverse....they all do that sir I gather.

[Edited by Dave T-S - 4/19/2002 10:34:23 AM]

 

Chris

No, haven't broken ours (although the 1.7 bar boost spikes wouldn't have helped, cured it by taking the decat exhaust off and putting it back to standard).

 

Yes Dave, agreed. It's just that mine seems to be very noticable. Just not used to it I guess...

Cheers

Simon

 

Dave,

The demonstrator at my local dealer is off the road at the moment, apparently with a damaged engine. Nobody has owned up to doing it yet though!

Mark.

 

Cheers, that's one....keep them coming

 

Listers had one, although they would have you know it was a gearchange problem.

 

1.7 bar Not good Dave

Simon - The clutch on my MY01 used to smell quite a lot too. I wasn't abusing it. Seems to have settled down now. There are quite a few people who will tell you the same thing.

Chris

 

That's two, any more?

 

guna test an STi7 next week at cov meet http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...threadid=86896 so i'm sure we'll weed out any trubble lol
Si

 

Dave, slightly off topic, do you know time scale for release of PPP?, I talked to IM last week, who were very defensive about it, it all seems to have gone very, very quiet
regards

JG

 

Hi DTS I've also heard of the Listers car going pop.

 

See thread entitled "STI Running In" in Scobynet General.

Apparently, the STI 7's engine is particularly vunerable during the run in period. Subaru has issued an advisory that 4000rpm should not be exceeded before 1000miles in the UK STI. I've heard of cases (in Australia) where the JDM STI has had very low-time engine failures, with nothing but a decat exhaust.

This is supposedly due to a piston seizing in its bore. The tolerances are extra fine on this engine to increase power, reduce noise, better consumption etc.


*This is what I've heard. Tho it is unconfirmed, it seems to tie in with factual experience/observations. If anyone has other info contradicting or not, plse correct me.*

 

Dave

If your right about the STI engine, will IM sign off on the PPP ?.

Jonathan

 

John/Chins/RT

Who knows?

If this follows the P1 engine failure situation then you will never get any official word on it to owners.

Good point about the PPP, but as it is only rumour about STi engine failures at the moment I don't have the answer to that one.

The power of the internet being what it is, an unsubstantiated rumour can cross the world in seconds.

This is not belittling anyone who has reported STi engine failures, but it's early days yet and none of us have actually seen a car with an engine failure. From what has been said, it seems to be dealer not customer cars in the UK that have failed and they have been hushed up.

Time will tell....



[Edited by Dave T-S - 4/20/2002 8:51:48 AM]

 

A reliable source at the STi day at Knockhill recently thought the PPP would be signed off in the next 2-3 months.

D.

 

I've not heard of any STI7 engine failures directly either..

Since all the cars i've been told about via the rumourmill have been dealer cars I suspect that these cars may not have been run in at all, and just thrashed from new on the thinner runnin in oil

Seeing as Subaru are stressing that the running in process must be adhered to, rather than should be it would follow that this may be the common factor in all the rumoured engine failures. I.e the cars have been thrashed from cold, on the thinner oil and also, maybe not allowed to cool down afterwards properly.

Dealers have now been told to perform the 1000 mile oil change on thier demonstrators as soon as they get them. Maybe this edict came in light of these suspected failure of dealer demonstrators.

In short it's too early to tell, but to cover oneself leave the cars as standard and follow the running in period to the letter.

 

Neil,

Even if the dealers have been doing the oil change as soon as they get the cars, I would expect this not to help much as the average demonstrator get's thrashed hard from zero miles and never gets warmed up or down properly.

This is why I would NEVER buy an ex-demo car!!!!

I'm sure that as long as we run our cars in properly, there will be absolutely nothing to worry about.

Matt

 

Matt

I Agree m8. I think the treatment of demonstrator cars by those test driving it has more to do with any potential engine failures than any other factor.

But changing the oil to a grade which provides more lubrication than the thinner oil will help the situation a little.

The moral of the tale is I guess. Always run the car in properly, allow time for the oil to heat up before booting it(waaay longer than it takes for the temp gauge to get to the middle), and always leave it at least a minute to cool down after driving it.

[Edited by Neil Smalley - 4/20/2002 11:19:00 AM]

 

I'm also wondering about the 10K service intervals..

That seems a very long time for such a high performance engine. I may change the oil every 5000 miles just to be sure.

 

Neil

I agree - I had already decided to do an interim oil change on ours.

 

I do and will continue to do oil changes every six months which for me means every couple of thousand miles tops

I'm glad I installed an Oil Temp gauge so that I know when I "have permissoin to thrash" It's usually at least 15 mins before the Oil is up to temp. I'm just glad I don't live where Dave does 'cos I'd hate to have to waste all those great national roads whilst the oil is warming up. 15 mins for me is about how long it takes me to get out of London which coincides quite well

Matt

 

yes the Listers Demo blew not gossip fact. Crank & piston Valves rumour has it.
The cause was inexperience test pilot 4.5krpm in 6th went to change down to 5th to accellerate got 3rd gear. I think it got a bit more than the 1.7 bar spike Dave probably bent Rev counter needle.LOL

Tony

 

Not sure if it is included in the number here - but a demo car has definately blown, piston and subsequent big-end - was not the Listers car.

A famous garage that sells Lotus as well

Trout

 

Only a theory but it seems its the UK cars that are giving way no reports of JDM failures.Could it be that the reconfiguration of the ECU for UK cars is'nt quite right?

 

Deep, unfortunately NOPE.

The ones I've heard go pop are JDM STI's.

 

I wish I could afford a fast car that did'nt like to go pop.Those ones you've heard of RT,do you know what kind of fuel they were run on?

 

I know of one definate engine failure on an STI 7. Again it was a dealers car, where the pistons had picked up and caused damage to the pistons and bores.Regards, SIMON.