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Old 30 January 2002, 04:07 PM
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Hi Everyone

i have only had my MY98 for a couple of weeks (after years of dreaming) but i have noticed that if the car is left outside and allowed to cool completely the clutch judders for the first few changes of gear.

It is fine once warmed up a bit.
Is this a scoob trait? Should i be concerned

I appreciate your ideas on this on

Mitch
Old 30 January 2002, 05:19 PM
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Mitch,

Afraid this is a all too common 'feature' of the car. The clutch is made of very hard material and if the face is not completely flat, you will get judder typically from cold.

Unless you can drive round this, you're gonna need a new clutch pretty soon. This is a big job and the labour alone will be £400-500. For this reason you'll probably want to have an uprated clutch fitted.

Subaru are pretty good about swopping under warranty, but unless you have extended warranty I guess you are out of luck.

Sorry mate
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Old 31 January 2002, 11:38 AM
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yeh my 3yr old MY00 suffers from this to when cold and outside only, its only done 38K. If its a trait of the car, is it really necessary to replace the clutch? I have extended warranty uc
Old 31 January 2002, 12:05 PM
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Replacing the clutch did cure it on mine - at 12K, done under warranty, lot nicer to drive now (21K),

Cheers
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Old 31 January 2002, 12:57 PM
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There is a much cheeper solution to occasional clutch judder (stated on the SIDC faq, and found to work for my MY98)...

Warm the car up well, and stop on a nice quiet flat road. Engage 1st gear, rev to about 4000 (be careful), and gently let the clutch in and steam off down the road (so that it gives the clutch surfaces a good non-jerky rubbing down).

I find that this treatment cures juddering for a few weeks.

Not a permanent solution for my car though :-(
Old 31 January 2002, 01:52 PM
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Mitch,

I too have a slight problem with this (MY00 - X Reg - 28K miles) and done something similar to James. I selected 5th, reved to 4K and rode the clutch a little for about 5 secs - with the hand brake on. After you have done that you will smell the clutch - the dead cat smell. Mine as been fine for 3 months now.

Steve.
Old 31 January 2002, 03:35 PM
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Thanks

mmm - i will take it up with the Scoob dealer as it has the warranty (Greenways i Norwich)
They seem friendly enough - but now that they have my cash we shall see.

If not i'll go for the temporary cure.

Any recommendations on an uprated clutch?

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Old 31 January 2002, 04:33 PM
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I just had and ap clutch fitted no complaints

only cost me £600 ish fitted

bit outa ur way but Len from subaru4you did it
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My 98 Turbo has done this from new 57000 miles now on the same clutch. My dealer says it is normal
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Interesting to read about dragging the clutch to remove judder.

When my MY01 went in for service it had some judder, which I didn't tell the dealer about.

When I picked it up from service no judder, and the clutch engaged drive very smoothly indeed.

Wonder if this is done as 'part of the service'.

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Know what you mean. When mine came back from its last major service it disappeared. It only occurred when the car was left outside in cold and or damp anyway, but strange how they seemed to "cure" it at service time. Never mentioned it because my Dad's Rover 200 Vi does the same. After about 2 weeks after the service the judder returned. Accidently by chance on a wet roundabout standing start I unintentionally followed what I had also read on the SIDC site about slipping clutch from 4000rpm ish and then flooring it. Never dared try it intentionally, didn't want to break anything. But it Worked a treat but there was a terrible smell from front of car when I returned home: thought I had burn't clutch out However, touch wood, everythings fine, and two months later and its as smooth as silk (a bit snatchy when cold but no judder)
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