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Old 08 March 2008, 06:42 PM
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Default Which gearbox replacement 4 P1 350 +

My gearbox ended its days today so its time to replace but im undecided which one to use?,cant really afford a 6 speed,so are there any other boxe's that will fit and cope with 350 +bhp and lbft ?also what is the code for a P1 box?
Old 08 March 2008, 07:44 PM
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TY754VBAAA that is the gearbox code from my P1 box, Which i just sold. The code will also match the sti 5/6 gearbox too.

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Old 08 March 2008, 08:07 PM
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Cheers banny,how much you sell the P1 box for?.
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£450 fella
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Those boxes are generally regarded as the strongest of the OE 5 speeds. If you've already broken one it could be false econony to get another. 6 speed is the next cheapest unfortunately
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Yeh from reading up it looks like a 6 speed conversion,what year cars came with the 6 speed? and also what exactly do i need for the full conversion?.
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You will need the gearbox, prop, gear linkage, diff, drive shafts, hubs and brakes.
Basically the whole back end from a newage STi, if you use a uk 6 speed. On the other hand if you get a JDM 6 speed with a 3.9 final drive, you can use the rear diff from a v2 sti ra and use your existing hubs and shafts hth.

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Originally Posted by banny sti
You will need the gearbox, prop, gear linkage, diff, drive shafts, hubs and brakes.
Basically the whole back end from a newage STi, if you use a uk 6 speed. On the other hand if you get a JDM 6 speed with a 3.9 final drive, you can use the rear diff from a v2 sti ra and use your existing hubs and shafts hth.

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Not sure thats true for the OP, a P1 has the R180 setup so all he needs is box, linkake prop and rear diff from a 6 speed donor.

I stand to be corrected though
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The P1 does not have the r180 setup as i bought the diff and gearbox and it matched up to the original shafts on my sti 3 saloon.

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Oh, OK I stand corrected then!!
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
Those boxes are generally regarded as the strongest of the OE 5 speeds. If you've already broken one it could be false econony to get another. 6 speed is the next cheapest unfortunately
Agree, speak to David at Api for advice and a quote.

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P1 has the R160 rear diff, but it also has the same 1:1 drop gears as the Sti5/6 and 4.44 diffs front and rear.

All UK classic boxes have 1.1:1 drop gears and therefore would require a different rear diff or different drop gears to work properly

6 speed similarly you need to make sure that front and rear diffs are compatible with the drop gears, but assuming that they are I believe that the Auto propshaft is a perfect fit for length. Anyway this is a potential minefield - best asking David at API engines(advertiser on here) as he is regularly doing this swap and has a stock of gearboxes

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If you use a UK 6 speeder, you only need the box, shiftlinkage, propshaft and a reardiff with 3.54 ratio out of a MY99/00 UK WRX, I think they have this ratio as well as our european WRXs have!
I did my conversion this way and it is not much more work than changing 5 speeder against 5 speeder!
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
If you use a UK 6 speeder, you only need the box, shiftlinkage, propshaft and a reardiff with 3.54 ratio out of a MY99/00 UK WRX, I think they have this ratio as well as our european WRXs have!
I did my conversion this way and it is not much more work than changing 5 speeder against 5 speeder!
theres no usch thing as a my99/00 uk wrx.

unless you go for new age, none of the uk standard box's are string enough at that sort of level.

i blew up mine and went for a ppg straight cut gearbox, prob the most expensive option, but keeps all the existing ratios, diffs etc
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Hmmm I have to mention, that I had a V5 box with matching 4.44 reardiff on my car before the swap and then had to find a WRX diff with the 3.54 ratio, found it in the UK then!!!
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