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Old 23 February 2008, 02:55 PM
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Unhappy my 3rd gear has just gone bang !!

right as above now what i want to know is

A how hard is it to get the box off myself and back on
B do i have a rebuilt to standard or uprate it (cost?)
C think bollocks and spend 2k having the 6speed conversion (dont really want to spend that much but could if i had to)
D should i have a new clutch fitted while the box is off
Old 23 February 2008, 05:00 PM
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If the box has been off before now, not too hard a job, 4 spanners on the Haynes manual scale.
If it is the first time off/first for you, really hard work
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If your car is a stock UK turbo then stock.
If you want to tune to 400 lbft, uprate, see (3)
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As a daily driver go 6 speeder. You will need the rear diff probably too.
A DIY job but a hard work/easy tech one
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Definitely, and fit an uprated one too.

To discuss all the above rationally and get prices for all 4 call David at Welcome to the API website who I use!
Old 24 February 2008, 01:00 PM
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right iv got some prices now

person A about £1000 with them doing every thing and fitting a new uprated clucth two week wait tho

person B £800 with a new clucth (did say if it was a uprated one) and the gear box rebuilt can start work on next week some time

will have to wait till tomorrow to speak to api about what they can do
Old 24 February 2008, 01:03 PM
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Really cant fault API with their gearbox rebuilds/clutches.

They offer a good warrenty also
Old 25 February 2008, 10:32 PM
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right its sorted it off to northampton subaru on sat and il get it back the following sat its having rebuilt gerabox new uprated clutch and im hoping a lighted flywheel while he is in there !! so it all gravy
Old 26 February 2008, 08:43 AM
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How much power do you think its putting out?
If the engine is modded and its producing about 350 of each then you will kill 3rd on a standard gearbox again.
Old 26 February 2008, 11:56 AM
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i used scoobyclinic to build my box, o er, but i know david, hes a good chap and will do a good job for you.

i had the same thing

options are

1> rebuild/recon - about £800
2> 6 speeder - about £2000
3> ppg straight or helical gear set - £3500

rebuild may break again, straight cut is noisey but very very strong, 6 speeder dicks around with ratios and some folks don't get on with them
Old 26 February 2008, 03:18 PM
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when it was on the rolling road it was running at 300 with two buggered coil packs and he was also doing it in 3rd gear so it was only boosting to 1bar i recon if he had done it in 4th it would of made 330ish and it got new coil packs aswell now !! well 3rd gear has always been a bit noisy ever since i got the car i dont really want to 6speed it just becasue of the cost £2.5k?!?! so im happy with paying £800 with new clucth and they can do it so soon
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330bhp and an older gearbox dont realy mix, so recon will hopefully last ya ok
Old 26 February 2008, 05:19 PM
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TBH mate, if you're at 330ft lbs torque (torque, not bhp, kills boxes) then it may just be worth getting the 6 speeder fitted. At last that will be a pay once, fit and forget option. £800 is only considerably cheaper if you have to pay it once. How do you drive it - that and the mapping makes all the difference.

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Totally agree!

also, I think the 6 speeder can add value to the car at re-sale.

I have been knocking seven bells out of my stock gearbox with 350 lbft, 140+ drag starts on racing slicks, BUT I change gear really smooth and with a clutch!

Powe shift a 5 speeder and something will let go.
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dont hammer the car every were i go most of the time i drive like a grandad then open it up when i get the ergurge !! i just dont have a spare 2.5k at the mo and i did think about buying the one off her for £1500 and fitting it my self but i cant as i have no were to do it and iv lost use of the ramps i normally use plus my dad it to bizy to help me i had really wanted the 6speed but its just not the right time im getting married in 13weeks so im "ment" to be saving !!!

according to my rr results when the car was on the rollers it had 300 ftlb if thats any help but suspect that it may be aliitle more than that now its running properly

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