BHP gain from PPP.
17 December 2001, 01:28 PM
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Must have been asked many times before but..........
I have a std MY00, 218BHP??? How many more horses does the PPP give me?? & at what cost?? & how much more insurance can I expect to pay??
I have a std MY00, 218BHP??? How many more horses does the PPP give me?? & at what cost?? & how much more insurance can I expect to pay??
17 December 2001, 01:54 PM
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My MY00 with PPP pushes out just under 250bhp (249) running with optimax, as for the insurance, well 10% seems to be the in figure on your policy, but make sure you tell them its an approved option, some companies wont cover you if you have a PPP fitted 
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17 December 2001, 03:54 PM
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Officially 215 to 237bhp or 218 to 240PS = 10%. Midrange is over 20% more where you need it. Get a quote for up to 20% so that you can add a DP and boost controller, or better still just start with those and forget PPP and change the backbox.
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17 December 2001, 06:30 PM
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I've got the PPP kit+downpipe on my MY99 RB5 and it rocks...
Regarding a boost controller, what would you recommend guys/girls?
I know that UP Auto (http://www.upauto.co.uk/) do the lovely Apexi kit but would it be worth getting the Super AVC-R and Super AFC to use in conjunction with the PPP or would that need changing?
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Regarding a boost controller, what would you recommend guys/girls?
I know that UP Auto (http://www.upauto.co.uk/) do the lovely Apexi kit but would it be worth getting the Super AVC-R and Super AFC to use in conjunction with the PPP or would that need changing?
ta,
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17 December 2001, 06:31 PM
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DP = downpipe - replaces the first bit of the exhaust - liberates almost as much power as PPP, or improves PPP 
Slight increase in noise if you select a suitably quiet backbox to go with it. You would still have a cat in your centre section and would hopefully scrape through MOT. Your warranty would be void unless you have a very sympathetic dealer! 120-300+VAT + fitting. Scoobysport, Magnex, Falkland, Scoobymania.
Boost controller - electronic £400 - eg HKS EVC IV, Apexi AVC-R
- manual - www.dawesdevices.com £25 your warranty will be void with any of these. Would give you at least as much power as PPP, but a little less subtle.
PPP is expensive, but very driveable/resellable/legal noise/emissions, lots of torque midrange, not much outright power increase. On its own though arguably makes your car as quick as an STi - certainly much more torquey.
Slight increase in noise if you select a suitably quiet backbox to go with it. You would still have a cat in your centre section and would hopefully scrape through MOT. Your warranty would be void unless you have a very sympathetic dealer! 120-300+VAT + fitting. Scoobysport, Magnex, Falkland, Scoobymania.Boost controller - electronic £400 - eg HKS EVC IV, Apexi AVC-R
- manual - www.dawesdevices.com £25 your warranty will be void with any of these. Would give you at least as much power as PPP, but a little less subtle.
PPP is expensive, but very driveable/resellable/legal noise/emissions, lots of torque midrange, not much outright power increase. On its own though arguably makes your car as quick as an STi - certainly much more torquey.
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John,
Interesting comments...especially re: the downpipe, dealer and warranty. My dealer (a Subaru dealer!) fitted the decat downpipe and supplied the car with it and warranty! Could be interesting if something went wrong
Is it worth getting the controllers to use in conjunction with the PPP or is that overkill?
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Interesting comments...especially re: the downpipe, dealer and warranty. My dealer (a Subaru dealer!) fitted the decat downpipe and supplied the car with it and warranty! Could be interesting if something went wrong
Is it worth getting the controllers to use in conjunction with the PPP or is that overkill?
ta,
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17 December 2001, 07:19 PM
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Boost control makes a MASSIVE difference - for example I now get full boost of 17PSI at 2400rpm. That translates into 50-70 in 5th gear in only 5 seconds, compared with 8+ unmodded, 7 with PPP and 6 + with PPP+DP. Other increments are similarly improved - 30-70 off the speedo is 4 seconds - prob about 4.5 in reality?
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