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Old 06 December 2001, 12:34 PM
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Tried to find out elsewhere but failed....

Anyone tell me the differences between the above cars in terms of transmission.

Please note I talking old shape (i.e. pre MY01) cars.

E.g. Is the WRX type R "just" a 2 door version of a normal WRX in terms of ratios, front/rear bias?

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Is is the same as the STI R (short ratio box, rear bias) but without the adjustable centre diff?

If anyone can help shed light?

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sorry but it depends on the car.

Airheads wrx for example has abs, meaning it doesnt have a centre diff and allthe nice things that come along with it such as the mechanical rear lsd as opposed to the viscous.

WRX type rs are very rare, there are only two years that were produced this way. Given this, I ahve a snealy suspicion that they will indeed be abs version. As for gear ratios I would guess they use the normal wrx or sti gearing as the type r box always ahs teh active centre diff, never the normal centre lsd.
Old 06 December 2001, 01:28 PM
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Hi Guys

Maybe they do have the short type R ratios as my RA v-lim has the ridiculous short gear ratios and ABS

.. and I also have the 35:65 type R bias

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Old 06 December 2001, 04:05 PM
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Is your RA a non STI version then?
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Kenny

Yes, a MY00 Type RA WRC Limited Version VI

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Old 07 December 2001, 10:26 AM
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an RA is a bit different.

These are meant for rallying. Type Rs are not intended that way.

To my knowledge all wrx type ras have short gearing except the sti type r v lims which are expected to be bought more by collectors than by rally drivers.

Since the wrx ra doesnt fall into this category it does still get teh manic setup.
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Hi Adam

yeah, I know. I was just pointing out that it is possible
to have the short gearing and ABS, as mine has both.

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Thanks Adams!

My copy of "You and Your Impreza Turbo" turned up last night as well, which confirmed everything nicely

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Adam M,

The Type R was intended as a rally car, but in a slightly different way to the Type RA...

The Type RA has pretty much all the bits (and low weight) you'de want for rallying in Group N, but if you were to look at WRC then the Type R makes a better base shell (higher torsional rigidity etc)... although admittedly it doesn't make much difference when the full case is installed

So, in short, if you're rallying on a budget you'de get a Type RA, if money is no concern then you'de get a Type R, strip it, works cage it, and fit some nice engine and active transmission goodies. A few hundred grand later you'de have a car that'de give the works teams a run for their money (if you're a good driver, anyway). It was nice to see some privateers running WRCs finishing ahead of some of the works entries

As for ABS and the centre diff, they are mutually incompatible because of the slip that the active centre diff allows... for example it's OK to do handbrake turns (indeed the diff controller "listens" to the handbrake and disengages the lock when pulled, nice for getting it sideways on gravel, for example)

I have heard of one 22B that has had ABS retro-fitted so I don't think it's down to the controllers occupying the same location.

Hope this helps,

Pat.
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