lightwave693

i have a my98 turbo wagon, few little mods, decat, panelfilter Dawes and thats about it.

i have just come into a fair bit of money and wondered how much to take my wagon to the magic 400 mark...considering everything, gearbox bottem end,turbo the lot... i really enjoy the wagon and its handy for my business so i wanna treat it

im after a round figure and maybe a place that can do the work needed

i am tempted to go american and get a big v8 but they dont go round corners!

cheers

Rich

drb5

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https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...hp-out-p1.html

lightwave693

still want a price, viewed that thread and seems 400 from a p1 can be done on the cheap for 4k, ive got around 15- 20k and i want it to last more than 20mins. its still going to be my daily driver, ive got 400hp in my head as its a good figure, but i wont be racing the car flatout every journey, so maybe nos is an option for when i want to go fast??

scooby-tc

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Why dont you put that kind of money towards a quicker car instead of throwing it at an old car.You will never get anymore money when it comes to selling it? 4k is bearable but 15-20k

lightwave693

im not interested that much when it comes to selling, if i can get where i want for 4k then thats great but i have budgeted for upto 20k for car mods... if less than that then groovy. full hog i want, brakes,suspension, the lot!

Tidgy

sc450 from scoobyclinic, off the shelf 450bhp/480ftlb for 10k, you'll need gearbox and clutch but should see cange form your 220k i'd have thought and have a phonominal car.

the development engine has been in a 22b for the past year isha nd runs like a dream.

only prob, he keeps shreadding rear tyres on the 22b pmsl

Daveo

Well done mate - if you've got the money then why not spend it on your wagon? They're great cars. I've spent 10-15k on mine, money well spent as I love the car and it's a great hobby.

Try RCM or Zen, you should be able to get a fully built, stroked engine for that which will be bullet proof and awesomely quick. Good luck.

Dave

lightwave693

brilliant, thats the response i want

*smiles*

Yep, would agree with Daveo, IMO RCM is the only way to go, as you said you want it to last for more than 20 minutes. A steel bottom end and stuff will for sure make it bulletproof, have a word with RCM they will easily help you spend that budget and more

I am currently rebuilding my STi Wagon, with STi 9 crank, eagle rods and Mahle pistons etc, wont be quite 400 but will be nice and safe and bullet proof enough for my power aspirations.

Let us know how you get on ang get some pics posted ... and come and say hello on the wagon thread https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...sign-here.html


Good Luck

Jay m A

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I'd be tempted to sell your wagon, source a STI V5 (did they do a V6?) wagon and mod from there. That will be easily done for £15k plus the sale of your car.

*smiles*

Yep, have to agree with Jay m A as another alternative route. As with the STi wagon you get a lot of the ancillaries as standard. e.g. The turbo, injectors etc, including uprated brakes and suspension.

Thats what we did, I sourced a 99 v5 Wagon for the project as its the best starting block, you can ecutek it and it seems its a lot easier starting point from the 99 cars.

They did do a v6 wagon (GF8G5ED) but they are ultra rare and never seen one, very limited run of them.

drb5

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Although an STi is defo a better base model, it isn't a difficult and expensive thing, to source another block, better pistons/rods and some nice head gaskets and head studs, if you want the engine to be bullet-proof for 400hp.

Do to your car what you want mate, but don't limit yourself to a budget too much. Take your time to search each part that your thinking about buying and this should give you an idea of the next part to buy...

Jay m A

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With 400HP as a target you're going to change turbo / injectors etc anyway, but at least you needn't touch the engine with a V5. With that in mind the cost of a built shortblock, then source some heads (for MY98 that means V3 or V4) then all the bits associated with an engine swap plus the labour will cost nearly the same as the difference in value between the 2 cars. Plus the STI will have the R180 diff with LSD, the 2 pot rear brakes etc, also the best 5 speed box that arguably may take the intended power etc, eleccy mirrors it seems to make sense

*smiles*

yep, v5 is same as the P1 engine, and seen several p1's running in the 400 region on standard internals and gearboxes.

BTW, conradbradley from 'The Racing Line' has a STi 5 engine for sale for approx £1500, there was a thread in the for sale section or PM him see if it is still available. As Jay says you could keep the STi 5 internals standard or could replace internals if you really wanted with STi 9 crank etc.

Or just blow the lot on a litchfiled/ powerstation Cosworth 2.5 Lump and say money is no object... make it fit

lightwave693

thanks for the replys, i like the STi wagon comments, got me thinking. better brakes suspension etc... would make sense.

cheers

Rich

*smiles*

There are just different schools of thought, you decide which is right route for you

dazdavies

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The DIY approach

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...ssic-2-0l.html

I had loads of fun doing it although I'm not quite finished yet

Daveo

They did a v6 wagon but ultra rare - I'm lucky enough to have one!

*smiles*

v5 here