Notices
Drivetrain Gearbox, Diffs & Driveshafts etc

MY97 WRX / STi ECU Swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 09:36 AM
  #1  
freshtripe's Avatar
freshtripe
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Bath
Default MY97 WRX / STi ECU Swap

What happens if....I fit a 280ps STi ECU to a same age 240ps WRX Wagon?

I am hoping for a gain in power (car is always run on Optimax + Millers), but I believe the wagon has a smaller turbo than the STi - would this result in overfueling?
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 09:46 AM
  #2  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

cant you fit a 280bhp 97 wrx saloon ecu instead?

sumbody once told me the sti has diffrent pins on the ecu, although ive never confirmed that and couldnt say for sure
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:35 PM
  #3  
freshtripe's Avatar
freshtripe
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Bath
Default

Thanks stickymicky - the saloon still has the bigger turbo, right?

Is there a definitive tech spec guide for the Jap models- boost levels, turbo type, cam profile, etc?
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:51 PM
  #4  
TheSquirrel's Avatar
TheSquirrel
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
From: in a Shell station
Default

You will need to fit a TD05 as the smaller turbo on the wagon will hit about 1.2 bar, which is near to fuel cut on the ECU AFAIK the injectors are bigger on the STI so thats another consideration One more thing is the majority of the internals in a STI were built stronger than the standard WRX The car will run but not 100% fit the bigger turbo and injectors and it will be a runner but the internals may need upgrading in the near future

Grant
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:53 PM
  #5  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

not sure, my 97 wrx had a Vf22

most seam to have this
or possibly a vf23/22

what does the wagon have?

the wrx ecu runs 276bhp but not as much torque as the sti model (although mine was past the standerd sti specs with a pannel filter and a cat back 3" system when tested)
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:56 PM
  #6  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

Originally Posted by TheSquirrel
You will need to fit a TD05 as the smaller turbo on the wagon will hit about 1.2 bar, which is near to fuel cut on the ECU AFAIK the injectors are bigger on the STI so thats another consideration One more thing is the majority of the internals in a STI were built stronger than the standard WRX The car will run but not 100% fit the bigger turbo and injectors and it will be a runner but the internals may need upgrading in the near future

Grant
the 97 wrx doesnt have a td05

the 97wrx on my drive has the sti injectors ()dint think the wagon will have them tho)

the 97 wrx on my drive has a fuel cut of 1.45bar

the 97wrx runs power figures which are very close to the sti model on paper (20lbft of torque or so less), im sure the internals will be fine, as a side note, ive ran my car on a td04 for months at a time while killing my main turbo and its also been fine, although its been controlled with a dawse device

monitor fueling and knock and you will be fine

Last edited by StickyMicky; Sep 12, 2004 at 08:58 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 07:46 AM
  #7  
freshtripe's Avatar
freshtripe
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Bath
Default

Thanks again stickymicky.

I have a dawes and afr - will invest in a knocklink before fitting the STi ECU.
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:07 AM
  #8  
dj219957's Avatar
dj219957
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,708
Likes: 1
From: Staffs
Default

yes the wagon (if it is a wrx import) has the smaller td04 turbo. You could put the ecu in but you would have to put a MBC on to cap the boost and the iccle td04 wont like the boost settings in the map.
I have run vos chip + mbc with my td04 wagon with no probs
Upgrading to td05 today!
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2004 | 07:15 PM
  #9  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

Originally Posted by freshtripe
Thanks again stickymicky.

I have a dawes and afr - will invest in a knocklink before fitting the STi ECU.
are you fitting the 97 sti ecu or the 97 wrx saloon ecu?

IMO your better off with the 97wrx saloon one
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 03:09 PM
  #10  
freshtripe's Avatar
freshtripe
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Bath
Default

Following your advice I may try to find a WRX saloon ECU - but to be honest I am thinking about going the whole hog and buying a STi III R/RA! (see my post in General Technical).


Probably simpler / cheaper in the long run...
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 07:47 PM
  #11  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

why not buy a 97 wrx saloon then?
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:23 PM
  #12  
Jolly Green Monster's Avatar
Jolly Green Monster
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 2
From: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
Default

also the sti ecu will have higher rpm limit than the wrx as it has different heads/cams etc.. you will kill the engine in the wrx is you rev it to 8000rpm.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 06:13 PM
  #13  
freshtripe's Avatar
freshtripe
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Bath
Default

Originally Posted by StickyMicky
why not buy a 97 wrx saloon then?
R U offering?
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 10:33 PM
  #14  
buzzard's Avatar
buzzard
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
Default

best advice i can give you regarding the ecu change freshstripe is...............
DONT!!!!
yes it will be fun .....for awhile.
if you do put in the sti ecu,start saving for another engine cos you WILL need it.
sorry.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
34
Nov 7, 2024 04:10 PM
scottydouk
General Technical
2
Sep 10, 2015 11:10 PM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:38 PM.