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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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I am having a "project" done on my car at the min and i want to put some different headers on. I have been told ported headers are good as they do not loose the scooby rumble. Is this correct?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:46 AM
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Yes. You will loose the off beat burble if you go to equal length but there are lots of headers (tubular) that are unequal length.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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Can anyone suggest some good tubular headers and a rough idea of prices
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Depending on your turbo, Gruppe'S' from the US with up- pipe for 399$ plus shipping plus import duty and VAT. Unequal length.
There have been issues with the solid up-pipe, expansion and contraction causing leaks. Also flange faces not flat. These issues are surmountable but some people have gone for an up-pipe with a flexi joint or a Hayward and Scott slip joint up-pipe.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Afraid i have got a custom up pipe as i have a big hybrid to go on.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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The version 2 Gruppe-S headers use a cast collector with a very thick flange and a Helix uppipe with a flexi joint to address the issues with the earlier design, which I think the first group buy received. IIRC you can buy them without the uppipe for $299.

I used a 2" H&S solid uppipe I already had fitted and was expecting to have to use 2 gaskets or have to do some fiddling to get the flange between the Gruppe-S headers and the solid uppipe to match, as it was they mated perfectly first time.

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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True -- the v2 Gruppe-S did have a smaller collector. It also *only* came with the flexi up-pipe (no smaller-bore solid version available). IIRC the first g/b bought entirely v1 headers. All buyers in the 2nd g/b (bar one) bought v2, and most bought the flexi up-pipe (as opposed to sourcing their own).
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Yep i have been talking to Mark at Lateral Performance and i think i am gonna go for a set of the gruppe-s
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