HKS GT Top Mounted Intercooler on STi 8 :-)
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HKS GT Top Mounted Intercooler on STi 8 :-)
Fitted the HKS GT-Type Top Mounted intercooler on my STi 8 (no cats, HKS s35i's Iridium plugs, Ecutek re-map, 255L/hr fuel pump) yesterday.
This top mount is seriously heavy and BIG. I reckon it is 2 x bigger than the standard STi TM. It is very well made and bolts on in 10 minutes. HKS claim its good for 500bhp. Much better than the work of fitting a FMIC.
It seems the VF35 is much more willing to boost higher now, as much as 1.5bar and hold 1.4 bar till 6000rpm !!!with the same duty cycles as per 1.35bar and 1.25 bar at 6000rpm with the standard intercooler. I presume this is a similar effect to overboosting when the ambient temperatures get colder?
Perhaps someone has an explaination?
Does this mean I can run the VF35 at higher boost since the intercooler is more efficient or is the limiting factor more that the VF35 becomes inefficient above a certain boost?
This top mount is seriously heavy and BIG. I reckon it is 2 x bigger than the standard STi TM. It is very well made and bolts on in 10 minutes. HKS claim its good for 500bhp. Much better than the work of fitting a FMIC.
It seems the VF35 is much more willing to boost higher now, as much as 1.5bar and hold 1.4 bar till 6000rpm !!!with the same duty cycles as per 1.35bar and 1.25 bar at 6000rpm with the standard intercooler. I presume this is a similar effect to overboosting when the ambient temperatures get colder?
Perhaps someone has an explaination?
Does this mean I can run the VF35 at higher boost since the intercooler is more efficient or is the limiting factor more that the VF35 becomes inefficient above a certain boost?
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Increase in boost is bacause your new i/c is not such a big restriction to airflow.
I would recommend caution - get the car checked out with DD if not done already. Was you remap done to cater for 1,4 bar at 6k - how much boost was it holding before? If not catered for, you'll be off the load scale and into dangerous territory, even assuming intake temps are OK.
As for what is safe boost wrt the new i/c - I'd recommend fitting at least a temp probe in the throttle body (better one at turbo outlet too). With a tmic, what may be good on a single power run will cause intake temp problems after extended power use. The engine itself radiates a large amount of heat at WOT, which the tmic gratefully receives.
I should add that I also run a tmic
Richard
PS: get the car checked out ASAP - I seriously doubt it is safe currently
I would recommend caution - get the car checked out with DD if not done already. Was you remap done to cater for 1,4 bar at 6k - how much boost was it holding before? If not catered for, you'll be off the load scale and into dangerous territory, even assuming intake temps are OK.
As for what is safe boost wrt the new i/c - I'd recommend fitting at least a temp probe in the throttle body (better one at turbo outlet too). With a tmic, what may be good on a single power run will cause intake temp problems after extended power use. The engine itself radiates a large amount of heat at WOT, which the tmic gratefully receives.
I should add that I also run a tmic
Richard
PS: get the car checked out ASAP - I seriously doubt it is safe currently
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Originally Posted by carlos_hiraoka
got any pics of this HKS TMIC ?
Carlos H.
Carlos H.
As for the 1.4 bar at 6000rpm. I was running 97RON fuel + 2 x bottles of NF Race Formula. Knock Link dead quiet and DD showed 4+ degrees of timing right through rev range. The scaling on my Ecutek map is adjusted for higher loads than 1.35 bar on a VF35 ;-). Obviously the IDC were a bit high :-( with standard injectors. Turned duty cycles down now using user tuning for the moment. I love user tuning!!
The less restriction theory makes sense I suppose though I thought the standard TMIC was pretty good.
I suppose a temp prob would give me more answers. Next task :-)
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How well does the HKS GT intercooler "interface" with the OEM rubber boot on the underside of the air scoop (on the bonnet)? The original intercooler's fins are slightly recessed so that the boot can fit in. Do you have to alter or remove the boot with the new IC?
Cheers.
Cheers.
#7
Originally Posted by RT
How well does the HKS GT intercooler "interface" with the OEM rubber boot on the underside of the air scoop (on the bonnet)? The original intercooler's fins are slightly recessed so that the boot can fit in. Do you have to alter or remove the boot with the new IC?
Cheers.
Cheers.
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