MY00 gearbox - won't go into third gear
#1
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Carolyn has said her car has had difficulty going from second into third on occasions - only when overtaking or accelerating very hard - situations like pulling away from lights in traffic OK. It has been OK when I drive it until last night. Here's what it did:
Driving along, I slowed down to 10mph or so in second gear as someone turning right in front. When they turned off, road clear in front (60mph limit) so floored it in second, up to around 5-6000 rpm then went to change to third. Would not go into third - physically impossible as if something was blocking the gearlever position. Went to fourth - ok and tried to go back to third. Would not go into third. Tried fifth - would not go into that either. Ok back to fourth. Drove back home in fourth, around 1.5 miles. Third and fifth still lost for this distance. At the junction along from my house it would not go into first but second OK.
When I got to my drive and drove in it still would not go into first but second OK.
When I got into the drive and stopped all gears came back. Haven't driven it yet today but all gears OK getting it out of the garage.
Car is MY00 UK car, standard apart from SS full exhaust from turbo back and ITG filter.
4500 miles, run in properly, not normally thrashed (except the minority of the time I drive it ).
All the gears where the gearstick goes backwards (second and fourth) worked and none of those where it goes forwards (first, third and fifth) worked. It came back when the car was static.
It seems to be a problem exacerbated when the gearbox was in a high torque situation (nailing it in second)and the car is noticeably more powerful/torquey than standard with the inlet/exhaust setup on it.
I suspect it is a selector/baulk ring/syncromesh problem. It is a long time since I worked in the garage trade and took a gearbox apart but it is obvious that when one of the gearbox gearshafts was moving in one direction the gears would not engage but in the other direction it was OK.
I've searched the SN archives but not come up with a similar fault. Any offers??
I shall talk to the dealer tomorrow (Days of Chelmsford) but forewarned is forearmed.
Driving along, I slowed down to 10mph or so in second gear as someone turning right in front. When they turned off, road clear in front (60mph limit) so floored it in second, up to around 5-6000 rpm then went to change to third. Would not go into third - physically impossible as if something was blocking the gearlever position. Went to fourth - ok and tried to go back to third. Would not go into third. Tried fifth - would not go into that either. Ok back to fourth. Drove back home in fourth, around 1.5 miles. Third and fifth still lost for this distance. At the junction along from my house it would not go into first but second OK.
When I got to my drive and drove in it still would not go into first but second OK.
When I got into the drive and stopped all gears came back. Haven't driven it yet today but all gears OK getting it out of the garage.
Car is MY00 UK car, standard apart from SS full exhaust from turbo back and ITG filter.
4500 miles, run in properly, not normally thrashed (except the minority of the time I drive it ).
All the gears where the gearstick goes backwards (second and fourth) worked and none of those where it goes forwards (first, third and fifth) worked. It came back when the car was static.
It seems to be a problem exacerbated when the gearbox was in a high torque situation (nailing it in second)and the car is noticeably more powerful/torquey than standard with the inlet/exhaust setup on it.
I suspect it is a selector/baulk ring/syncromesh problem. It is a long time since I worked in the garage trade and took a gearbox apart but it is obvious that when one of the gearbox gearshafts was moving in one direction the gears would not engage but in the other direction it was OK.
I've searched the SN archives but not come up with a similar fault. Any offers??
I shall talk to the dealer tomorrow (Days of Chelmsford) but forewarned is forearmed.
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Oi button your Sunlip - this is a SERIOUS post - remember??!!
My left arm's broken - but I can still change gear ok - probably also still drive better than you you tart
So back to serious answers please folks.
Thanks
My left arm's broken - but I can still change gear ok - probably also still drive better than you you tart
So back to serious answers please folks.
Thanks
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I had all sorts of problems with my MY99 gearbox, kept jumping out of 5th on the motorway, gearbox was rebuilt under warranty. Since the rebuild though i sometimes get no gears at all, only when stationary though, since the rebuild it doesnt jump out anymore, but this problem still occurs sometimes, i have tried a couple different gearbox oils, Silkolene improved it, my dealer has put what he called Justy oil in, and that has cured it 99% still happens rarely, but nowhere near as much as it did before !
Hope this helps a little
Hope this helps a little
#6
Mine graunched on fast up changes to third, dealer changed the oil and then re built third gear. This cured it but now I have a strange whine that rises with speed?
Dealer does'nt know what to do as it is too quiet to hear when out side the car (engine running and wheels turning etc on ramp).
Any ideas?
Dealer does'nt know what to do as it is too quiet to hear when out side the car (engine running and wheels turning etc on ramp).
Any ideas?
#7
Hi Dave,
I have a bit of useless, if not maybe interesting information to offer.
Whilst valeting a customers car we had the ashtray out and dropped the cig lighter through the hole - as you do could I F#@k as get it out I tried everything even a magnet
Whilst taking the car back on hard acceleration it would not go into 3rd because the cig lighter would roll forward and jam the mechanism up but when I braked it would.
hope your solution is as simple as this, but then again they never are are they.
Scotty.
I have a bit of useless, if not maybe interesting information to offer.
Whilst valeting a customers car we had the ashtray out and dropped the cig lighter through the hole - as you do could I F#@k as get it out I tried everything even a magnet
Whilst taking the car back on hard acceleration it would not go into 3rd because the cig lighter would roll forward and jam the mechanism up but when I braked it would.
hope your solution is as simple as this, but then again they never are are they.
Scotty.
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SCOTTY
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Unfortunately ciggy lighter still there (BUT - paranoia alert - maybe dealer did lose it same way and just replaced it with another one)!!
LOL
Unfortunately ciggy lighter still there (BUT - paranoia alert - maybe dealer did lose it same way and just replaced it with another one)!!
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