Third gear gone bang again
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I have just had third gear go bang again,this is the third time in under 15000 miles,has anyone else had this same problem with there gearbox?I am not sure what to do now,i cant aford a lateral performance syncro kit at the moment, any ideas?
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Seems to be quite common, especially on UK boxes.
Sti boxes (exc. adj diff types) seem to be holding up well with some folks putting a fair amount of torque through them.
A bit up in the air at the moment as there was a debate recently which unfortunately got a bit heated on 22B, but PAR gearkits aren't unbreakable it seems.
To my knowledge, there's no definitive cure to guarantee unbreakability in any aftermarket gear kits.
Alan
Sti boxes (exc. adj diff types) seem to be holding up well with some folks putting a fair amount of torque through them.
A bit up in the air at the moment as there was a debate recently which unfortunately got a bit heated on 22B, but PAR gearkits aren't unbreakable it seems.
To my knowledge, there's no definitive cure to guarantee unbreakability in any aftermarket gear kits.
Alan
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You need to speak to Mark about the PAR gearkits as he is the authorised dealer for them.
Same with torque capability from them, though i believe it's around 450Ib ft?
Alan
Same with torque capability from them, though i believe it's around 450Ib ft?
Alan
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It's a reference to ver 5/6 Sti gearboxes which are in use by a few people with pretty powerful scoobs.
Haven't came across much feedback from those that use boxes out of the earlier cars or those that ran variable diffs, so can't comment on them.
I'm led to believe that 3rd gear in the later version Sti 5 speed boxes is slightly wider than the UK 3rd equivalent, but i don't have sufficient knowledge of these drivetrains to give hard facts, only what i have experienced,seen and been told by other more learned members and what other Subaru owners are experiencing.
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It's a reference to ver 5/6 Sti gearboxes which are in use by a few people with pretty powerful scoobs.
Haven't came across much feedback from those that use boxes out of the earlier cars or those that ran variable diffs, so can't comment on them.
I'm led to believe that 3rd gear in the later version Sti 5 speed boxes is slightly wider than the UK 3rd equivalent, but i don't have sufficient knowledge of these drivetrains to give hard facts, only what i have experienced,seen and been told by other more learned members and what other Subaru owners are experiencing.
Alan
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About a month back i had the same problem, killed my gbox well actually 3rd gear? I got a replacement from this man.
Colin_minton@hotmail.com or you could ring him 07771767874.
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Colin_minton@hotmail.com or you could ring him 07771767874.
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The PAR kit is guaranteed against breakage up to 450 BHP and 400 lbft. However, the guarantee does not cover non-PAR parts which may have caused the failure and it does not cover what the manufacturer judges are failures due to incorrect gearbox build.
I've gone with one and intend to push it to its guaranteed limit and no further, which happens to also be I believe a sensible limit for an EJ257 with any expectation whatsoever of reliabity. I gather that 28 of the 30 or so kits supplied so far in Europe by Lateral have not failed and the two that have were replaced under warranty. Sounds like as good a track record as you'll get at this level to me.
[Edited by john banks - 11/16/2003 10:44:11 PM]
I've gone with one and intend to push it to its guaranteed limit and no further, which happens to also be I believe a sensible limit for an EJ257 with any expectation whatsoever of reliabity. I gather that 28 of the 30 or so kits supplied so far in Europe by Lateral have not failed and the two that have were replaced under warranty. Sounds like as good a track record as you'll get at this level to me.
[Edited by john banks - 11/16/2003 10:44:11 PM]
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Has been suggested (now I know this may not apply to guys who are blowing boxes with big BHP) that the standard gear box oil level (think it's 3.5litres) is actually too low and 3rd gear ends up getting 'splashed' rather than 'bathed'...
Think it was T-UK some time ago who suggested putting an extra 0.5litres of gearbox oil in on top of maufacturers stated amount
Think it was T-UK some time ago who suggested putting an extra 0.5litres of gearbox oil in on top of maufacturers stated amount
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it does not cover what the manufacturer judges are failures due to incorrect gearbox build
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sti 6 speed hmmmmmm....... i want one of those as well. should they not be more availablish now that the sti 7 and 8 have been oad going for a while?
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I got my 6speed together with the STI7 propshaft and gearlinkade from API,It had done 1700miles and it was cheaper then a Par gearset is without install,
With the parts it´s a direct bolton,no mods
Skassa
With the parts it´s a direct bolton,no mods
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Has been suggested (now I know this may not apply to guys who are blowing boxes with big BHP) that the standard gear box oil level (think it's 3.5litres) is actually too low and 3rd gear ends up getting 'splashed' rather than 'bathed'...
Think it was T-UK some time ago who suggested putting an extra 0.5litres of gearbox oil in on top of maufacturers stated amount
Think it was T-UK some time ago who suggested putting an extra 0.5litres of gearbox oil in on top of maufacturers stated amount
You mean when I swapped my oil when the box was off I over filled and it was a good thing? n my god: lol
Makes a change.. all my mistakes normally cost me money.
JGM
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Dont take this the wrong way but i am glad it is not just me breaking boxes,i was beginning to think i just had bad luck or could not drive properly(no jokes please).The scooby third gear is a real problem for a lot of people.
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I stripped my 3rd gear on my box the other week (UK MY98). I don't 'thrash' the car that much and always thought I took care (as much as you can) of the box eg blipping the loud peddle to change down, trying to not snatching gears. The car is just running a full de-cat and dawes (1.05 bar). When it eventualy went, I was in first gear gently pulling out of my drive, with my nan in the car!!!
I got a 2nd hand box from GradeA. Its getting fitted today so I'll ask them to put 4 litres in. Thanx for the info
I got a 2nd hand box from GradeA. Its getting fitted today so I'll ask them to put 4 litres in. Thanx for the info
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Just when i thought it could not get any worst,mark at latral performance does not take credit cards,so i cant buy the kit,Bugger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very useful and dangerous all at the same time..
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