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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Anyone have ay information or have anti fitted to your car? Does it kill the lag flagspots? hows much etc,etc
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Erm, possibly a bit drastic... not to metion a tad illegal on the road
What's the problem?
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Just a question related to the flat spots you get when changing gear quickly due to the spool down of the turbo??? Is it illegal??
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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DOnt know much about the kits thats why i am asking..:-)
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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Yup, illegal on public roads.
You might be able to get an improvement with a quality DV - this is argued back & forth a lot - I found an obvious improvement with an HKS DV, and even more so with a Forge, but it (the Forge) id set to 'destroy turbo' release pressure (or would if it were an IHI one...) - it doesn't exactly dump very often. This 'no dumping' (whiether it's possible/sensible or not is very dependant on the turbo) may or may not be to your taste, though.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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np on the anti lag m8 cheers

Also posted the DV question as i see people saying there is a difference then others say there isn't..so hopefully that question will also get answered cheers for the info
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Erm, possibly a bit drastic
But so much fun
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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here u go
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=377537&highlight=antila g


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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Is anti-lag actually illegal on the public roads? I thought it was still a grey area
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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I don't think it's speifically noted in the regs "Thou shalt not use anti-lag", but the obvious noise/pollution problem is there & how well do you think it would stand up in court? Traffic cop sees flame flying out of the car, I think he's probably have good reason to pull it over & cause a few problems to the owner.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Some of the more extreme Ralliart evos come with anti-lag so surely it must be legal. Doesn't it drastically reduce the life of your turbo anyway
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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Nom,

I don't know why it would be illegal, except for the possible noise emmisions issue.

Compressor bypass valve systems are traditionally accused of being there to reduce turbo lag... therefore they are a form of anti-lag... but most OE turbo cars are fitted with quiet compressor bypass valve systems (dump valves).

I guess that pretty much any vent to atmo dump valve will be illegal taking the noise argument... however i've never heard anyone suggest that BOVs are illegal.

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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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I'll have to find the reference to the law bit - I know I saw it somewhere. No idea where, though
I suppose the main reason that A-L isn't 'common' is the fairly brief life it gives to the average turbo. And I'd have thought its road manners wouldn't be much fun?
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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You may also consider the effect on the brakes of having little or no servo vacuum

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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I heard the same as nom, its illegal.

Whenever they put it in Jap mags, they say its meant to be use only for track days and not on public roads
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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So how does the brake servo vacuum thing work then?
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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It uses vacuum from the inlet manifold to 'help' the brake master cylinder (press the brake peddle then start the engine while holding it down, you can feel it).

With anti-lag you keep the boost pressure when you come off the throttle, so no vacuum in the inlet manifold to help your your wee right (or left ) foot along.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Ahh-ha! That's not *too* much of a drama though is it? I guess you could fit a meatier master cylinder and disconnect it from the vacuum system altogether?
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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or you could use a vacumn pump..

David
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