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Old May 15, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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I am currently running a Forge VTA dump valve on my 99UK Impreza. I run my car at Crail when I can but I have been told that,not only am I a tart for wanting the chuff noise but it can actually make the car slightly slower! Is this right? Is a recirc valve better for standing quarters? Cheers all
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Old May 15, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Old May 15, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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There's certainly no advantage... the best is no dump valve at all, of course
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Old May 15, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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the VTA will only have marginal loss compared to a recirc.

the idea of a DV is to release excess pressure on the turbo when you rev down. As the engine butterfly closes all the air that the turbo (that is spining like mad) has no where to go. it will end up pressurising the system and making the turbo work harder, stalling the turbo. a VTA releases this pressure to tha atmosphere, letting the turbo wind down at its natural rate.

a return valve reflows the air before the turbo. this creates a higher pressure before the turbo, and acts as the exhaust gasses do on the other side, spinning the turbo up.

so, if you understand what i route (which i barley do) then a return valve keepd the turbo spinning at a higher rate, alowing the turbo to spin up quicker... hence the little more performance...

no BHP difference tho (but better curve)
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Old May 15, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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...unless you slam it between the gears (like I'm guessing you would be with what you're talking about), when the boost shouldn't actually have a chance to drop - the effect is that the car keeps pulling when you take your foot off the power. Works well - but not much fun in traffic!
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Old May 15, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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judge the vet to atmo bugger up the mixture so you get worse pick up after gear change CAR run rich I run reci FORGED with soft spring very very good.still get a good sound to.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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If you're quick with your changes it doesn't seem to be any different. Of course, I've got the dawes which gets the turbo active very quickly so it feasible this is hidding any Forge disadvantage. Well worth if for the noise
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Old May 16, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Saxo Boy
You finally fitted it then?
Even after the good Dr.s advice..........Still. Hope you're enjoying it.
Steve G.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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I bought a Forge VTA before Christmas. Sold it just after, following a discussion with Dr J.B.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Saxo Boy
You finally fitted it then?
SG72..

He fitted it all by himself and didn't even need a hand from anyone
Sounds cool anyway
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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All I needed was your tool sipie.............can I say that?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Sg72 - see 'scotland forum'
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Ooh I'm such a nasty man stopping all you Rice Boys having your tunes
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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LOL at rice boys - last I hear you DV sounded the gayest of the lot
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Only winding you up mate...... sure you would have got there in the end
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