++ TSL FIRESTORM LOUD ++
03 February 2003, 11:45 AM
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Had the car on a rolling road on Sat (MY01)
& produced 295 BHP & 257 torque
BUT ALSO 111 DECIBELS
Cheers Maffa for arranging the day & the guy with the decibel meter !
& produced 295 BHP & 257 torque
BUT ALSO 111 DECIBELS
Cheers Maffa for arranging the day & the guy with the decibel meter !
- looks and sounds great though 
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03 February 2003, 07:53 PM
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lmao at Xt 
It is loud. i did have the bung out but even with the bung in, it is loud. If you dont change the downpipe, i think you will be fine. If you change it, you will be over the emissions test so if mr plod pulls you up, you get a producer and just change your exhaust back for a quick MOT
It is loud. i did have the bung out but even with the bung in, it is loud. If you dont change the downpipe, i think you will be fine. If you change it, you will be over the emissions test so if mr plod pulls you up, you get a producer and just change your exhaust back for a quick MOT
03 February 2003, 07:56 PM
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MOT ? The car I will fit it to will be new
I am thinking Firestorm, centre decat and eventually PPP with high flow cat downpipe ?
So what do you reckon ?
I am thinking Firestorm, centre decat and eventually PPP with high flow cat downpipe ?
So what do you reckon ?
04 February 2003, 09:13 AM
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Got nicked for 109db exhaust and the Police in the Essex area are cracking down on unaceptable noise.
I can't blame them really or th neighbours that have to endure that ckind of auditory abuse prior to 7am in the morning and after 9.00pm of an evening.
Be careful as if one complaint is made at a police station by a neighbour they will investigate and take action and yes you could end up taking it off your car.
There is a word of warning as if you decide to then put it back on the car, they have powers to confiscate it and the 14 day notice does not apply 2nd time round....
(This is not a thread to criticise police or policies or practices)
I can't blame them really or th neighbours that have to endure that ckind of auditory abuse prior to 7am in the morning and after 9.00pm of an evening.
Be careful as if one complaint is made at a police station by a neighbour they will investigate and take action and yes you could end up taking it off your car.
There is a word of warning as if you decide to then put it back on the car, they have powers to confiscate it and the 14 day notice does not apply 2nd time round....
(This is not a thread to criticise police or policies or practices)
04 February 2003, 11:01 AM
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Guys
Are you all sure that a) the meter was calibrated and b) it was being used correctly.
These sorts of noise levels are seriously high and would damage your hearing.
Are you all sure that a) the meter was calibrated and b) it was being used correctly.
These sorts of noise levels are seriously high and would damage your hearing.
04 February 2003, 12:02 PM
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Thats why i want to go to another place and get reading! It was funny but it is way to loud. I couldnt hear over my bloody radio! Bung is in and its much better. Couldnt believe the difference. i can now drive with not getting everyone looking at me!
Bung stays in. it only came out that day as there was an exhaust competition! lol
Bung stays in. it only came out that day as there was an exhaust competition! lol
04 February 2003, 12:09 PM
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I stood by the fans out the back of the rolling road for moneys second run. It was Damm Loud,the only thing I could compare it to is drag cars at the pod. It acutaly made my chest rumble apperently a pnumatic jack hammer is 80 to 90 db and at 90 they are pushing the law to the limit
apperently a pnumatic jack hammer is 80 to 90 db and at 90 they are pushing the law to the limit
04 February 2003, 01:35 PM
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That is loud! however, you have to compare like for like. One test that is common is the mircophone to be 1m away from the back of the exhaust and 1m above it. Usually in an open space and not in a garage!
Yes 3dB is double the noise, so 101 dB is twice as loud as 98db
Yes 3dB is double the noise, so 101 dB is twice as loud as 98db
04 February 2003, 02:26 PM
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They did move the exhaust measurer quite a bit back from the exhaust and above it. i couldnt understand why as i thought it had to be nearer but now i understand
04 February 2003, 06:16 PM
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Either Way you look at it when you put one of these bad boys on a full de-cat system not a lot can make make as much noise!!!! When you are in an enclosed street etc they sound beautiful! The nosie is addictive.
I love mine best buy of last year! Plus I now have 4 new neighbours as the rest moved out due to the noise He He!! Joking!!!!
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When you are in an enclosed street etc they sound beautiful! The nosie is addictive.I love mine best buy of last year! Plus I now have 4 new neighbours as the rest moved out due to the noise He He!! Joking!!!!
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04 February 2003, 10:12 PM
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I had mine tested same way that rally cars are, 4.5k with the meter 1m away in open space.
UK MY99 with SS DP, 3" BPM centre and BPM twister3 BB and it registered 99db with the bung and 103db without.
My mates MY93WRX with a full SS decat registered 98db.
I've been told that the legal limit is 104db using this check but it seems a bit of a gray area. FWIW H&S legislation states that noise levels anything over 85db requires ear protection. So be careful unless you want to wear a hearing aid in later life.
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UK MY99 with SS DP, 3" BPM centre and BPM twister3 BB and it registered 99db with the bung and 103db without.
My mates MY93WRX with a full SS decat registered 98db.
I've been told that the legal limit is 104db using this check but it seems a bit of a gray area. FWIW H&S legislation states that noise levels anything over 85db requires ear protection. So be careful unless you want to wear a hearing aid in later life.
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05 February 2003, 09:40 AM
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I'd have thought that this kind of sound level was only produced at full or almost full throttle and high-ish revs.
I dread to think how my TSL Grp N BB and de-cat centre sound, particularly when its been de-cat DPd (Later today !),
BUT .. I always drive at almost tickover in the local streets..
so, Hopefully - no one will really notice (TOO MUCH!)
Mark
I dread to think how my TSL Grp N BB and de-cat centre sound, particularly when its been de-cat DPd (Later today !),
BUT .. I always drive at almost tickover in the local streets..
so, Hopefully - no one will really notice (TOO MUCH!)
Mark
05 February 2003, 02:00 PM
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Mark - lets just say I've take the Limehouse link tunnel home 'every' day since having mine fitted. Seems to have quietened down a bit now its bedded in...if you are after *****-out loud you are better with a firestorm, but the Grp N makes a 'quality' sound and goes almost silent on cruise @ 4k RPM / 100mph, which is what I like. Will be interesting to hear with a decat d/pipe...
05 February 2003, 07:09 PM
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Well, I've got just that now !!!
Sounds GREAT - The overall tickover noise is not really any different. If the throttle is opened a small amount, for 30 limit style driving, you can hear the turbo wind up whistle and you can hear something whistle slightly on back off - I think it may be the dumpvalve, as mines still re-circ standard.
HOWEVER< boot it and its V nice !
Fairly loud, deep note - plenty of Turbo whine as it runs up and MUCHO EXTRA POWER !
Very Happy Mark Indeed
Sounds GREAT - The overall tickover noise is not really any different. If the throttle is opened a small amount, for 30 limit style driving, you can hear the turbo wind up whistle and you can hear something whistle slightly on back off - I think it may be the dumpvalve, as mines still re-circ standard.
HOWEVER< boot it and its V nice !
Fairly loud, deep note - plenty of Turbo whine as it runs up and MUCHO EXTRA POWER !
Very Happy Mark Indeed
05 February 2003, 08:49 PM
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Mark - so basically you now have the full TSL grp N decat system?
What MY?
The backbox and centre made a huge difference to mine...how much difference over that has the d/pipe made? I know the d/pipe is the most restrictive section so I'm presuming the same again at least?
Has it improved any particular part of the performance especially?
What is the sound level like at the critical 100mph cruise?
cheers...I'm excited now...
What MY?
The backbox and centre made a huge difference to mine...how much difference over that has the d/pipe made? I know the d/pipe is the most restrictive section so I'm presuming the same again at least?
Has it improved any particular part of the performance especially?
What is the sound level like at the critical 100mph cruise?
cheers...I'm excited now...
05 February 2003, 09:05 PM
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Yes - I now have the full system (+ITG Panel Filter)
Its a UK 98MY Turbo.
The sound level at 85 (not been above that this afternoon!) is fine - power wise - at least the gain from BB and Centre combined !
(After an afternoons judgement)
My 11 year old son was blown away at the difference - he asked if I was in control of the car, as it felt like it was going on a rocket surge on its own !
Mark
PS
DO IT !
Its a UK 98MY Turbo.
The sound level at 85 (not been above that this afternoon!) is fine - power wise - at least the gain from BB and Centre combined !
(After an afternoons judgement)
My 11 year old son was blown away at the difference - he asked if I was in control of the car, as it felt like it was going on a rocket surge on its own !
Mark
PS
DO IT !
05 February 2003, 09:59 PM
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Ok I'm sold! Seems like full decat and Ecutek is the way forward. I just hope thats enough for me and I don't then have the urge to go messing with turbo's and injectors etc.
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