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Old 20 January 2003, 08:29 AM
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Since running my new hybrid I have a really bad misfire if I run boost over 1.1 bar. At this time I think it is due to the coil packs struggling and breaking down at the higher combustion pressure. I am already down to 0.6 plug gap so don't really want to go any tighter.
I know there are Bosch coils that work well as replacements but I believe they are not available in this country.

I would like to run the car at Well Lane on Sunday but no way I'll get coils from Auz in time now

Any ideas what I could use as a short term uprated replacement ?

I don't mind if they are big n ugly, just as long as they work !

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Old 20 January 2003, 10:17 AM
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Motorbike coils?

I assume you have a good earth to the block?

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Old 20 January 2003, 10:27 AM
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speak to pat
Old 20 January 2003, 12:19 PM
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Can you email a contact no for Pat

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Ok Got a set
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Old 20 January 2003, 04:29 PM
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You're like a kid at the fairground

Wednesday. David has also kindly donated a set of later style leads to suit
Old 20 January 2003, 06:11 PM
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Bit disappointed in the TD06... can't believe it only made a bar of boost at 5900 RPM during testing.
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andy in the post tomorrow..

YHM also.

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Was that with you blowing into it John?

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I think it would be good on an EJ33
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Proved it was the coils breaking down tonight, shut the gap to 0.5mm and the misfire disappeared

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get the leads?
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Don't know yet, I'm at work (cough) and parts are to mates garage.
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Out of curiosity...What are the downsides to running such a small gap on a plug, if it does result in complete combustion, with no missfires???
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Whats the verdict then?
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for everyones benefit,

a guy over on the gtr register discusses the merits of spark plusg etc.

He is seriously well ediucated and a bright guy who calls himself mycroft.

think the thread is here on blowdog's forum.

If you search through the tuning: general forum you will also see he is about the best person to speak to with regard to oil if you have any questions.
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Andy, do you think the coils made a worthwhile difference?
Old 28 January 2003, 12:32 PM
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I wish they had as you kindly sent me the leads and I'm £185 down now for the coils but to be honest there was no change. When I put the gaps back to 0.7mm the misfire returned. Bob R recons it could be the coil 'on' time is too short, this is set by the ECU and is not adjustable AFAIK.

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Old 28 January 2003, 12:53 PM
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Even with a different ignitor / module??

£185

Mine were £80

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£35 each plus vat n dely Woz I robbed ?
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either they have gone up or I dont check my credit card much
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Are these as bought from Oz or is someone supplying these in the UK now?

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Having read the GTiR forum, have i done right by buying NGK '7's, and should i gap them to say 0.8mm???

UK97 running 17.5 psi held in 5th

Getting so confused that my heads about to explode LOL
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Andy, you should definitely post a question on the gtr register asking Mycroft to give his thoughts.

He is easily the most knowledgable and practised person I know of in this area of engines, who will readily help if he can.

His spark plug thread might be of some use to you too.
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Reading too much GTR will make your head explode !

I only gapped my plugs so tight because I get a misfire if I open them any further. If I open them to 0.7 then it runs so much better off boost, it would probably also run better on boost if it would stop misfiring long enough

I bought this set from a guy on S/net who previously bought them for his scoob and then never fitted them.

Looking at the original fitment cars, they are nothing special. I can't believe there is not an equivalent available in the UK ??

Andt
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I posted before reading your reply. I read his plug thread and I'm convinced I need a bigger gap. I hope to try a different ECU shortly. I suspect my ECU's ignition amplifiers are a bit underpowered ??
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Cheers Andy

At the moment i'm running NGK 6's with my miniscule boost lol (17.5 held), and i get no hiccups at all.

What i'm planning on doing is removing the 6's measure the gap and set the 7's to the same gap, can you see any problems with doing that???

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PS, went for a spin in a renault 21 turbo running 2.2 bar of boost, wall of torque is an understatement lol
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surely you can change the amplifiers or build new ones yourself?



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