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Old 07 June 2002, 10:15 AM
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Hi guys,

My question is possibly a repetition of a previous topic. I nevertheless dare to ask.

I am interested in upgrading my MY99 (no mods so far) with Ecutek's Tek2 device.
Please, are there drivers out there that can provide me with experience with the product (preferably longer-term)?

- Are the advantages obvious? What are the disadvantages?
- Does Tek2 eliminate the stock boost restrictions in 5th gear, respectively does it eliminate the undesired top speed limit, too?
- Power gain also with stock exhaust?
- Would you buy it again?

Thanks very much to anybody who could give me some good advice.

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Pat
Old 07 June 2002, 10:22 AM
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I map with Ecutek products, so I can give you some factual answers if not unbiased opinions

Power advantage depends on what you are starting with - there is more of a difference coming from a MY00 than a MY99. If you had a boost controller before there is less of an advantage again. The rev limit and speed limit remain. The boost limit is raised to 19.6 PSI as the PPP and STi. The top speed limit could be increased sufficiently to avoid triggering it ever, but Subarus are not known for their reliability cruising at very high speeds, so I would recommend against it.

Some dyno runs are on the www.ecutek.co.uk site.
Old 07 June 2002, 10:49 AM
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John,

Are you mapping on behalf of ECUTEK or do you do it as a hobby using their software which you have bought?

Thanks

Guy
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disadvantage: warranty

can't comment on advantages as I don't have one, but would guess at better torque, more power, bigger grin

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@john
Despite the risk, I would insist on a complete removal of the speed limiter.
However, it is not in my intention to constantly cruise at top speed but to obtain peak speed for a short time if needed. I drive around 5k miles of German Autobahn per year and don't like the situation of outperforming a BMW first but getting overtaken at top speed afterwards.
Does Ecutek actually sell Tek2 devices without the limiter?

@All
Some drivers out there with the Tek2 fitted?

Thx again,
Pat
Old 07 June 2002, 01:48 PM
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I've got one you can try if you want? But it sounds like you need a custom map with built in self-destruct.....

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Old 07 June 2002, 01:55 PM
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Other than the performance increase, is it possible to tell by computer or by other method if the tek 2 is fitted, so to speak? I think what i mean is, if i accidentally forgot to mention it to the insurance company and i wrote my motor off, upon inspection is there any way they could find the upgrade and refuse to pay out? Not that i'd forget of course!!!!!!!
Old 07 June 2002, 01:59 PM
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Doubt it... Everything stays the same apart from the look up tables that they use (not excel) dont quote me on that bit, but all they do is reprogram and the select monitor still works so I doubt they would be able to tell...

Do it..

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go to www.ecutek.com

unsure of price..

Would recommend a new airfilter and exhaust though to get the best benefits..

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14/12/98, means your car is a MY99, so the Tek 2 will be right for your car. The MY99s came out in October of that year. But if you like, you can have a look at your ECU and it should have either a black sticker with AE800 writen on it, or a brown sticker with AE801 on it. These two ECUs were on the MY99s. The AE800 on the earlier ones and the AE801 on later ones.

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cheers very much m8.
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You are telling me that my car MY00 have the same top speed that a EcuTek Tek2 fitted????????
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Yes 147mph soft boost cut. If you have read all the big end bearing failure threads I would leave well alone, but if a customer wants it done and understands the risks I will raise it for them.
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ITS JUST A QUESTION.

Do not understand rong my question, has you know I want my car very, but VERY reliable.

Thank you.
Old 08 June 2002, 10:20 AM
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I'm not understanding you wrong.

I am saying if you want it higher than 147 mph I would do it but I advise against it.
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ok.

I think that when I have my "normal" Ecutek Tek2 fitted I have a PPP but whit little bit more power and torque (faster car) and whit the same reability.

Am I right.
Thank you.
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I would say you are right.
Old 08 June 2002, 11:41 PM
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Thank you for your quick answer.
Old 08 June 2002, 11:51 PM
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Sorry I am telling/asking you the same question but its for me the only thing that matters.

I live in Portugal and my car is a work car so I can not have problems whit him but I like if I can have a little more power so I want to ask you and I would to you answer me honest if I install a EcuTek Tek2 in my car if it stays reability. Reability to me is the important.

Thank you.

PS: I have fitted too a SS exhaust (de-cated but probably I will buy a Kat), APS coold air intake system, APS top-monted, samco-sport pipes (all), HKS dump-valve, NGK Group N Spark Pluges and a oil cooler.
Old 09 June 2002, 12:08 PM
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I think it would be as reliable as the Prodrive Performance Pack. There is nothing about the map that should compromise reliability - the boost levels are sensible, the fuelling is still rich, and the ignition not too far advanced - in some areas it is less than the Prodrive ECU as it seems a bit excessive.

With any MAF based ECU in any state of tune, probably the main concern is your MAF sensor with your APS induction. Fantastic piece of kit, but it would be worth having an AFR meter to check if you suddenly go lean if the MAF sensor were to fail.
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Explain me please about MAP and AFR.
I do not understand nothing about it.
Sould I get another coold air intake kit or I do not sould fit any filter?
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AFR= air fuel ratio
MAP= manifold absolute pressure
MAF= mass air flow
MAF measures the amount of air going in, MAP measures the pressure, AFR gauge attaches to the lambda sensor signal and gives an estimate of AFR in some circumstances.
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And sorry but I do not understand????
What I sould/do whit it.

I will fit too a Lamba link and a Knock link but how I sould do whit it and you tell me that I must/should have this whay.
I really do not understand nothing about it................sorry.
Could you explain me.
And what about the air filter kit what you advise.

Once again thank you and sorry for all this questions but I really care about my scooby.
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Scoobywhite,

I'd suggest you spend a week reading through previous posts - this will give you the background information you require. Your questions at the moment are a bit like "what's the answer to life, the universe and everything" - & the answer 42 will mean nothing to you

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Old 06 July 2002, 11:15 AM
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I map using their products as my own small business.

[Edited by john banks - 6/7/2002 11:16:19 AM]
Old 06 July 2002, 11:47 AM
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Just do it, you will not regret it.

Warranty is not an issue since the Subaru select monitor see the
ECU as a standard piece of kit. Big bonus..... unlike after market ECUs.

Wonder why there are so many Links for sale 2nd hand now, there are not selling either. But on comparison Ecutek is soo much more advanced taking advantage of Subarus millions of pounds of development into the Jecs.

Long live EcuTek !!!

Jase



[Edited by lordlucan - 6/7/2002 11:48:53 AM]
Old 06 July 2002, 02:02 PM
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I can feel my cheque book twiching. What sort of damage can i expect, financially speaking?
It's just occured to me! My car hit the road on 14/12/1998, but does have all of the factory 99 spec kit fitted. I'm not sure about the engine and ecu though! What would i be looking for to find out if tek 2 is available for me?

[Edited by Brun - 6/7/2002 2:12:33 PM]
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