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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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On the 5 speed gearboxes, changing diff ratios from a 4.111 to a 4.444 will it give a higher or lower top speed?
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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I think you may have to swap the front diff too.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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yes will be changing both diffs.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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Erm no! 4.11 to 4.44 will be lower top speed
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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I think Infected by STI might be right as the 3.9 rear diff is shorter with lower top speed, or is that to do with the gear ratios.

P.s it's still top speed of 155mph + so doubt you'll be using it too often.

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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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I think Infected by STI might be right as the 3.9 rear diff is shorter with lower top speed, or is that to do with the gear ratios.
3.9 is "taller" than 4.11 I'm
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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what do I know, I was basing it on my type r 3.9 diff, truth is I aint got a clue.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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Look at it like this (assuming fourth is direct)
Engine doing 3000rpm...
3000 divided by 3.9= 769rpm wheel speed
/4.11 equals 729rpm
/4.444 equals 675rpm.
The shorter the diff the less wheel speed
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I think Infected by STI might be right as the 3.9 rear diff is shorter with lower top speed, or is that to do with the gear ratios.

P.s it's still top speed of 155mph + so doubt you'll be using it too often.
Sixth on my diesel audi box is geared for 233mph at 7250rpm! Ha just need another 1000hp to pull it......
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted
Look at it like this (assuming fourth is direct)
Engine doing 3000rpm...
3000 divided by 3.9= 769rpm wheel speed
/4.11 equals 729rpm
/4.444 equals 675rpm.
The shorter the diff the less wheel speed
Ok I get it now, learn something new everyday.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 12:10 AM
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Yea my bad, it's the gearing on the JDM boxes that's shorter which is why it has the taller final drive to compensate I guess or you be at 4k sat at 70mph

Bet it would take off tho
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Type r is ish 4k at 70 and they do take off.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Type r is ish 4k at 70 and they do take off.
Type R is not 3.9 as standard it is a 4.444 ratio
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Type R is not 3.9 as standard it is a 4.444 ratio
I need to book in to see a kwack, I think I might be suffering early onset alzheimers.

What has a 3.9 diff.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I need to book in to see a kwack, I think I might be suffering early onset alzheimers.

What has a 3.9 diff.
, 3.9 is fitted to the newage jdm sti
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I need to book in to see a kwack, I think I might be suffering early onset alzheimers.

What has a 3.9 diff.
All uk gearboxes are 3.9, so all "VN" ratio gearboxes
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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cheers banny.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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How to break the 155mph top end with a 5 speed box?
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scottydouk
How to break the 155mph top end with a 5 speed box?
Plenty of power and a high rev limit. 200mph is possible circa 7500 rpm on UK VN 3.9 ratios
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Hmm, I wonder what's in my UK classic then. 3.9?

It revs at about 3.5k or so at 70mph. Would that sound about right?
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Hmm, I wonder what's in my UK classic then. 3.9?

It revs at about 3.5k or so at 70mph. Would that sound about right?
Gearbox code?
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by boosted
Gearbox code?
Good question, I'll have to find out later. I know it's on the vin plate but is it easily accessible in the box itself?
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Good question, I'll have to find out later. I know it's on the vin plate but is it easily accessible in the box itself?
Yes, open the bonnet and look by starter
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Thanks, will do!
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by scottydouk
yes will be changing both diffs.
And pinion shaft
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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mine is currently 100mph at 4,000 rpm with 4.111 diff and p1 5th gear set up
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