JackClark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...p-over-ipad-4/

Even I wasn't expecting this

Galifrey

iTrader: (3)

Looks about right to be honest, marginally faster than Galaxy Note 3

dpb

Maybe this will help people to stop driving into lakes

jonc

Apple are clearly cheating. It has the same A7 processor as the 5s which runs at 1.3Ghz and is overclocking the iPad Mini at 1.4Ghz.

JackClark

What?

jonc

Well if it doesn't run flat out all the time it's cheating isn't it.

JackClark

What are you on about. Spit it out man.

Tidgy

you really that dim?

tony de wonderful

FFS get a life Jack

tony de wonderful

Are Apple still using updates to cripple old hardware BTW?

JackClark

OK smartypants explain what he's on about.

JackClark

Do you mean the original iPad at three and a half years old is not getting an update to iOS7? If so then yes, those ******* have let you down. You should change to an Android device, at least they let you know years earlier that your device is no longer supported and don't keep you hanging on.

jonc

Like a typical iSheep everything has to be spoon fed to you. Here you go, your quote regarding benchmarking on a thread you started a few weeks ago and last posted on it yesterday....

JackClark

I still have no idea what you're on about. The iPhone and the iPad both use A7 chips but they run at different clock speeds, I'm sure you've seen chips that are designed to run at different speeds before... like pretty much all of them.

jonc

Well then you'll agree that Samsung don't cheat on their superior benchmarks then.

JackClark

What! Nothing similar at all, Samsung added code that detected benchmarking software running then upped the clock speed to an unsustainable level. Apple just used a faster chip in the iPad no doubt because it's bigger chassis helps with cooling. How is that remotely similar.

Beef

Gotta say Jon, you're onto a loser here; it's not even remotely uncommon for the same chip to run at different clockspeeds in different devices.

Samsung increased the clockspeed to an unusual level for the duration of a benchmark in a single device - Apple using 2 different clockspeeds in 2 different devices is totally different, and perfectly normal. The bigger battery can probably sustain higher CPU speeds for longer, it's probably better cooled, etc etc.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Apparently they are

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ng-iPhone.html

tony de wonderful

Yes that is what I was alluding to lol.

I don't own an iphone anyway, I can't justify the cost of what is basically a vanity bauble. I have my £99 android phone.

Tidgy

that it was claimed that the samsung (was it samsung? i dont realy pay that much attention lol) ramps up for bench marks. as it does when apps are running. you seemed to say that was bad

Tidgy

lol, software progresses, imagine trying to run vista on a comper designed for windows 3.1 or win 95

Galifrey

iTrader: (3)

Er no they didn't, not even remotely...

They set the clockspeed to run at its peak of 2.3ghz for the duration of the benchmark.

It was not overclocked, just set to run at it's normal maximum.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Totally different as windows 95 to windows vista there is about 12 years and hundreds of combinations of pc setups where as iphone 4s to iphone 5s there is only two years

Tidgy

kinda, depends on how the architecture is structured, how the software is writen etc. i bet the architecture is pretty different behind the scenes even if the speed is only a small jump up.

o but apple are still **** in general i might add lol

JackClark

"Rampell’s claims are likely fuel conspiracy theorists"

Yup. Conspiritards I like to call them.

JackClark

Bull****. Why would they need to 'set it' to run at it's maximum when the test should run it at it's maximum anyhow. They cheated, full stop. It's nothing new just an old dirty trick.

jonc

Dirty tricks? Apple is no better if not even worse by deliberately handicapping its users of older devices, guilty of price fixing ebooks, using slave labour in China, making false claims about their 4G devices, fined for unfair commercial practices, etc etc, the list goes on...

Galifrey

iTrader: (3)

Cheated whatever, they still didn't boost it to run it at a speed that it wasn't designed to run at which is what was claimed.

Why would they need to? To give a true reflection of the chipset?

Clearly they have some microcode issues that they haven't ironed out and that is a workaround.

JackClark

Butthurt much.

jonc

Why all the interest with butts? If you want to come out of the closet, just do it. Try and keep on topic.