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Old 16 June 2010, 10:25 AM
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Now on my 3GS, trying to remember what's new now.
Old 16 June 2010, 10:28 AM
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Installed it on mine last night, seems a lot more responsive than 3.1.3 - liking the folders & unified inbox too.
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is that through itunes update?
Old 16 June 2010, 11:00 AM
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No, you need to download iTunes 9.2 beta - Mac only - then download the .ipsw file for iOS4. If you don't have a developer account then they're all over the torrents and download sites. You're own risk of course.
Old 16 June 2010, 11:18 AM
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The places feature is pretty cool too, like on iphoto. The spell check should come in handy.
Old 16 June 2010, 11:31 AM
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Gmail integration has taken a leap. It was good before, just a little ironing has made it great.
Old 16 June 2010, 12:12 PM
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If you are on a 3GS then you'll have multi-tasking. When you press home button when in an app it takes it to the background, it does not fully kill it. If you want to kill it, double-tap home and then tap and hold on the icon in the status bar and a little delete icon appears, tap again and it's quit.

I've not had a chance to play with the features of iOS4 yet, I've been compatibility checking against it and there are quite a few changes that will no doubt cause developers to have to update their apps for iOS4, as some things might not work as expected if you're app was written for prior iOS versions.

It'd be a wise move to also get the apps updated with new @2x versions of any graphical assets so they look nice on the iPhone 4's new display.

I'm not updating my personal phone yet, I'll wait for a while after iOS4 is out, just so we can see what issues there are with it, plus I'll get enough use with it at work to decide if it really is worth upgrading. Same goes for iPhone 4, we will have a couple at work so I'll play with them before deciding if I want one, plus of course we don't get them in Canada at the same time as the US, so it'll be a real try before you buy situation.

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Old 16 June 2010, 12:28 PM
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How big is the IPSW file, small enough to e-mail?



(first post from my iPad)


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Its about 300mb IIRC
Old 16 June 2010, 01:51 PM
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downloaded it last night, not had chance to play with it yet or install it but DJ Jon, just as a courtesy you might want to remove that link you sent for the torrent download. It is a complete con as once you fill in the crappy questionnaires you get a link to...................apple.com

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I must have posted the wrong link I thought I posted the YouTube video link, is this on the other thread?
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Originally Posted by DJ_Jon
I must have posted the wrong link I thought I posted the YouTube video link, is this on the other thread?
Yes it was, a short youtube link that said click on the link in the video. But dont worry, I used your email address in your profile as the one that signed up to all the offers, crap, spam and holidays with haven
Old 16 June 2010, 02:46 PM
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I posted the wrong link, oops! The one I used had proper links to all the nessecary ipsw files & iTunes beta. Cheers for signing me up though, I could do with a cheap holiday & some Viagra
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You couldn't PM me the correct link to the file could you?

Old 16 June 2010, 03:40 PM
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Blimey that closing the app down completely procedure sounds a bit convoluted! I'm guessing a lot of apps will be updated with the option to 'exit' it.
Old 16 June 2010, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hanley
You couldn't PM me the correct link to the file could you?

I wouldn't bother, isn't the official release on Monday ( 21st ) anyway?
Old 16 June 2010, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
Blimey that closing the app down completely procedure sounds a bit convoluted! I'm guessing a lot of apps will be updated with the option to 'exit' it.

On iOS3.x when you press home of issues a terminate command to the app. Under iOS4 multitasking it does not send the command when you press home. Not sure what command it sends something like go background. Now, when you so the double tap and tap and hold it does not sedn terminate either it actually kills the app. From what the dev chaps said it will only get a terminate command when an app is in the background and there is low memory, at which poin it is issued a terminate command. I am told this would be a fairly rare situation

yes, iOS4 is slated for release on the 21st. This is why quite a few revs are working rather hard to get apps approved prior to the release so that when people update existig apps won't do horrible things under iOS4
Old 17 June 2010, 12:59 PM
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iTunes 9.2 is available for Windows and I've downloaded iOS file, but as mentioned above it's officially available on Monday, so probably worth waiting for!
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Oh dear impatience got the better of me... just restoring my backup on to iOS4... Let's see!!!

http://josebet.com/wordpress/2010/06...os-4-for-free/
Old 18 June 2010, 12:08 AM
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If it is the gm seed then you should be good as I doubt they would release a different build. I would be really annoyed if there was a difference as I've worked my **** off testing against the gm and I would need to retest everything
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well did it on wednesday night and it seemed to go okay.

Couple of odd issues :

Enterprise support and exchange mailbox :
It seems that the new security features meant it asked me for a pin code or token ? Never had this before so for a while my work mail account was not working.

A couple of apps crashed, obviously they have not been updated for the new os4, like the Telegraph News online app and my SatNav app.

Apart from all that, the folders are a blessing. Down from 8 pages of swiping to 3
Old 18 June 2010, 10:06 AM
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I'm guess the PIN code is part of the update, although I have defined on our Exchange server that all mobile devices must have a PIN code, so this was previously enforced by my server and would not let the device attach and sync up without it. I also have enforced encryption and have the ability to remote wipe.

I think two apps don't work, but I can live with that, as I'm sure they ware busy being fixed!
Old 18 June 2010, 10:11 AM
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Pocket Universe was updated last night, it now resumes instantly, lovely. Apple really have taken a new direction with Multitasking and you know what, they've chosen the right path... again.
Old 19 June 2010, 11:31 AM
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Just spotted an On/Off switch for Cellular Data, that's going to be handy on these new plans.
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How good is the i0S4 update as I downloaded it last night but I'm unsure if I want to install it.
Old 19 June 2010, 12:00 PM
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It's very good, subtle as ever but everything is well thought out. If you're unsure I'd hold out, not many applications have been updated for the new OS so you'll get a false impression of some features and some parts are not released - iBooks for one.

I have one application that crashes - it's crap anyhow - and Exchange Support for Google Apps seems to drain the battery, I've switched back to IMAP to test.
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It's officially available!
Old 21 June 2010, 09:44 PM
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it won't download it and it reckons 6 hrs on the time thing!!
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i downloaded it pretty quick, but it's taken 3 hours to install and it's still going
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy
it won't download it and it reckons 6 hrs on the time thing!!
It downloaded and installed in around half an hour for me at around 6.30pm

Could it be that everyone is trying to download at the same time? i'd imagine it works like torrents or am i wrong?

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