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24 March 2009, 07:28 PM
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Windows 7
Anyone else using it ?
Installed it yesterday, and I have to say for a Beta (build 7000) I am quite impressed ( a long time Vista hater
so not an easy task to impress me)
Speed wise it is very quick, and graphically has some nice touches too
Im running it on a Dell Vostro 1700, with Nvidia chipset, 1900 x 1200 screen res, 3 Gb Ram and 2 hard drives
It found everything straight away, all hardware discovered and installed, and up and running in under an hour
I went with the 32 bit version for now, as I only have 3Gb ram, so dont really need the 64 bit side of it at the moment
Not put all my apps back on yet, as I will probably just keep it to the basics I use for now, and see how it goes (it expires in August, so will have to rebuild then anway)
Installed it yesterday, and I have to say for a Beta (build 7000) I am quite impressed ( a long time Vista hater
so not an easy task to impress me)Speed wise it is very quick, and graphically has some nice touches too
Im running it on a Dell Vostro 1700, with Nvidia chipset, 1900 x 1200 screen res, 3 Gb Ram and 2 hard drives
It found everything straight away, all hardware discovered and installed, and up and running in under an hour
I went with the 32 bit version for now, as I only have 3Gb ram, so dont really need the 64 bit side of it at the moment
Not put all my apps back on yet, as I will probably just keep it to the basics I use for now, and see how it goes (it expires in August, so will have to rebuild then anway)
24 March 2009, 07:41 PM
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I upgraded my Dell XPS 1530, I've had no problems for a couple of months, until about a week ago, and then I had a couple of BSOD's right at the end of shutting down. I'm very happy with it. As for the expiry, I think the release candidate will expire later, probably after the likely launch date. It maybe they can adjust the kill date with an update?
24 March 2009, 08:08 PM
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TBH I would rather do a fresh install of a newer (RTM etc) release, just to make sure all the Beta code goes out the system
I think it is the best beta OS they have had for many years
I think it is the best beta OS they have had for many years
24 March 2009, 10:47 PM
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whats so diiferent about it from phista, which was a major fail for me, slow, to much emphisis on the GUI at the expense of speed etc, and patchy support for multiple deployments
search was nice and virtual directories
how does 7 differ, thought it was pretty much 100 phista code -- is it more than a WinMe remake of Win98
search was nice and virtual directories
how does 7 differ, thought it was pretty much 100 phista code -- is it more than a WinMe remake of Win98
24 March 2009, 10:56 PM
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It's basically so much slicker than Vista but keeps all the eye candy and more. The taskbar has had another overhaul to, with some really nice features added at no cost to speed.
More stable, although Vista is rock to
Bootup/shutdown is alot faster
Networking is improved
Bluetooth improved
Has multitouch ability if u have appropriate monitor
Filesystem improved
Services reduced to improve performance further
Whole load of other stuff, google
It's basically a nice play to be
More stable, although Vista is rock to
Bootup/shutdown is alot faster
Networking is improved
Bluetooth improved
Has multitouch ability if u have appropriate monitor
Filesystem improved
Services reduced to improve performance further
Whole load of other stuff, google
It's basically a nice play to be
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24 March 2009, 11:00 PM
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7 is the speed that Vista should have been
Vista is the WinME of the 2000's
7 is XP speed with all the nice (in fact improved) gfx that Vista has
I really like the minimised icons and the way they all work, just hover over with the mouse and you get the little preview like you do in Vista, only now if you hover over the preview, the desktop clears and you get the full size window of that app, a very nice touch when multitasking
I just gave my email address to the mail client, and it went and setup all the server side stuff (based on the domain name) again a really nice touch
IE8 seems pretty decent too, and internet seems much quicker too for general browsing, even SN has improved (yet still slow on IE7)
Ive only been using it a couple of days, but im sure I can break it somehow
and for a Beta it is very quick (considering it still has all the beta debugging code in it too)
Vista is the WinME of the 2000's
7 is XP speed with all the nice (in fact improved) gfx that Vista has
I really like the minimised icons and the way they all work, just hover over with the mouse and you get the little preview like you do in Vista, only now if you hover over the preview, the desktop clears and you get the full size window of that app, a very nice touch when multitasking
I just gave my email address to the mail client, and it went and setup all the server side stuff (based on the domain name) again a really nice touch
IE8 seems pretty decent too, and internet seems much quicker too for general browsing, even SN has improved (yet still slow on IE7)
Ive only been using it a couple of days, but im sure I can break it somehow
and for a Beta it is very quick (considering it still has all the beta debugging code in it too)
24 March 2009, 11:02 PM
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25 March 2009, 09:15 AM
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I've used it for a bit (64-bit version) and I have to say was impressed running 7057 ATM on a VM and even on a VM it's stable and runs ok. I have to say though it seems very Vista Service Pack 2 (yes I know Vista is having it's own Service Pack). People on other forums are also liking it
I didn't think there was much wrong with Vista, I think one of the problems was major companies not making decent drivers for it (Creative GGRRRRRR)
Hopefully with the right marketing this one will be a success, they seem to have made things a bit easier to navigate as well. UAC is now tweakable too
I didn't think there was much wrong with Vista, I think one of the problems was major companies not making decent drivers for it (Creative GGRRRRRR)
Hopefully with the right marketing this one will be a success, they seem to have made things a bit easier to navigate as well. UAC is now tweakable too
25 March 2009, 10:32 AM
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Using 32-bit 7057 here and have a few minor faults but works well but it is at the end of the day Vista R2 when you look at it and just has the tweaks that Vista should have had in the first place
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25 March 2009, 11:23 AM
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In MS terms, Win7 comes so close on the heels of Vista, so what is its purpose and intended market? Is it a little like Millenium was to Win98, aimed squarely at the home user?
25 March 2009, 01:19 PM
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http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/windows_7.asp
Windows 7 editions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
25 March 2009, 01:53 PM
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Been running Windows 7 on my dell inspiron since Beta release day, its great, had no issues at all, a few tiny older driver issues for things like usb to rs232 adapters but nothing that can't be sorted. As said, some nice touches, much faster than Vista, its topper Running 64bit version (kept Vista 32bit on another partition just in case but I've never gone back to it!)
Running 64bit version (kept Vista 32bit on another partition just in case but I've never gone back to it!)
25 March 2009, 10:24 PM
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Microsoft brought forward Windows 7 by at least 12 months if not more, because Vista sales have been really poor, and a lot of people dont like it
the biggest problem by far I had with Vista was the speed, it was just so slow, Windows 7 is ultra fast
the biggest problem by far I had with Vista was the speed, it was just so slow, Windows 7 is ultra fast
25 March 2009, 11:01 PM
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well thats encouraging -- vista was appallingly slow, cool gfx are fine, but if you just want to open a visio diag with a couple of spreadsheets and can see it chug chugging away, well pathetic really
27 March 2009, 10:34 AM
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I'm using it dual booted with Vista. However Vista works flawlessly on my laptop and as Windows 7 expires in August i'm loathed to switch to it as my every day OS when I know I have to go back to Vista in August.
I had a major issue with it bluescreening everytime it boots after 5 minutes and turns out it is due to a combination of antivirus and network drivers that is well documented with it being tdx.sys causing the issue.
This morning I stripped off AVG and on the reboot it had stripped my activation which I was hacked off with, ignored it though and went in to check and says it is still activated
So anyone know of any free av that is Windows 7 compliant?
Also the issue with UAC being turned off and not being able to use the gadgets still hasn't been rectified by way of an update from Microsoft but there is a reg edit that can be done to sort this, i've done it and it works fine.
Edited to add: Found that the Kapersky beta for Win7 is free!
I had a major issue with it bluescreening everytime it boots after 5 minutes and turns out it is due to a combination of antivirus and network drivers that is well documented with it being tdx.sys causing the issue.
This morning I stripped off AVG and on the reboot it had stripped my activation which I was hacked off with, ignored it though and went in to check and says it is still activated
So anyone know of any free av that is Windows 7 compliant?
Also the issue with UAC being turned off and not being able to use the gadgets still hasn't been rectified by way of an update from Microsoft but there is a reg edit that can be done to sort this, i've done it and it works fine.
Edited to add: Found that the Kapersky beta for Win7 is free!
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Well it is bluescreening with Kaspersky on it now with k71.sys causing it. With no anti virus its fine. As soon as I put anti virus on it it bluescreen approx 5 minutes after booting every time. Assuming it is related to the same problem AVG had and could be the broadcom drivers of which there are no updates for - 440 10/100 integrated nic.
Looks like only way i'm going to get Win7 to run is with no av
Looks like only way i'm going to get Win7 to run is with no av
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Well i'm not using the broadcom nic, even with it disabled it still does it. Just tried Avast and the same issue, bluescreens with tdx.sys being the culprit. So with no av absolutly fine, any av installed bluescreens after 5 minutes of being booted up 
Blue Screen of Death Caused by tdx.sys in Windows 7 Beta - Operating Systems
Digg - AV + SMB = Windows 7 BSOD (tdx.sys)
I have a network drive mapped so perhaps will try with that deleted although my network drive is where all my data is and needed day to day
Blue Screen of Death Caused by tdx.sys in Windows 7 Beta - Operating Systems
Digg - AV + SMB = Windows 7 BSOD (tdx.sys)
I have a network drive mapped so perhaps will try with that deleted although my network drive is where all my data is and needed day to day
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27 March 2009, 06:07 PM
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Im using Win7 quite happily with AVG hasnt crashed once and it hasnt been turned off for a few days now
I have a broadcom 440x 10/100 NIC in it and an Intel Wireless (this gets used the most) but in the office I use the bcom 440x on the LAN with AVG running and no issues at all
Bravo, what Laptop is yours?
I have a broadcom 440x 10/100 NIC in it and an Intel Wireless (this gets used the most) but in the office I use the bcom 440x on the LAN with AVG running and no issues at all
Bravo, what Laptop is yours?
27 March 2009, 06:09 PM
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My driver version is 4.60 and is dated 2006 for Windows 7, so its the default one it installed
Also im running 32bit Win7 and did a fresh install with no dual boot etc
Also im running 32bit Win7 and did a fresh install with no dual boot etc
27 March 2009, 08:58 PM
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Have a read of this, a number of possible fixes.
Solved tdx.sys causing BSOD - Fixed! - Windows 7 Forums
Solved tdx.sys causing BSOD - Fixed! - Windows 7 Forums
27 March 2009, 09:27 PM
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Cheers. Whilst SN has been offline I carried on playing and tried the McAfee one as one of those links posted above commented people weren't reporting the issue with McAfee so got the beta and have installed it. Working a treat! Done reboots and waited etc and no more bluescreens. So Kaspersky, AVG and Avast all bluescreened but McAfee doesn't 
Incidentally going back to the Broadcom driver updates as the suggested fix mine are the latest offered by Dell and they don't appear to be listed on the Broadcom website. I'd rather be using Kaspersky now I am using it on my Vista box but at least i've got av now working on Win7 with my network drive in tact.
Also anyone migrated itunes over to Win7 with all their ipod/iphone settings?
Edited again McAfee isn't working the network drive was off Switched it on and tdx.sys bluescreened again.
Will try that AV mentioned in the link that others are saying is working with network drives.
Incidentally going back to the Broadcom driver updates as the suggested fix mine are the latest offered by Dell and they don't appear to be listed on the Broadcom website. I'd rather be using Kaspersky now I am using it on my Vista box but at least i've got av now working on Win7 with my network drive in tact.
Also anyone migrated itunes over to Win7 with all their ipod/iphone settings?
Edited again McAfee isn't working the network drive was off
Switched it on and tdx.sys bluescreened again.Will try that AV mentioned in the link that others are saying is working with network drives.
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28 March 2009, 02:09 PM
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Interesting read, unfortunately the MS page has been taken down.
Microsoft slates May date for Windows 7 RC download | InfoWorld | News | 2009-03-26 | By Gregg Keizer, Computerworld
Microsoft slates May date for Windows 7 RC download | InfoWorld | News | 2009-03-26 | By Gregg Keizer, Computerworld