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Old 20 October 2008, 08:15 PM
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It looks like some people are challenging the right that newsgroups are still alowed to have links to content on thier sites.

Newzbin has recently received two serious complaints regarding the indexing we perform, and raising doubts as to its legality.

It is likely that we will in the coming weeks be presented with a court case and have to defend our rights. We will be defending ourselves vigorously against both the complainants if necessary and we believe a court will agree with our view that linking to content on Usenet is indeed legal and our method of dealing with unlawful content is appropriate. We believe that, or we wouldn't still be here.

We are not in a position to disclose the identities of these two complainants (though I'm sure you can guess one of them) but we will report more as we can.

These cases are against us, not you. Having an account on Newzbin is not going to be a problem for you.

So, basically, if you start seeing press releases that legal action is commencing against us, don't be alarmed - we know, and indeed it's a good thing that we're getting these issues laid to rest.

Remember these things take time however, so it's unlikely we'll have further news for another few weeks - please don't hassle us for information, we will give you it when we have it.
Old 22 October 2008, 04:06 PM
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Hope they win, couldn't fancy downloading headers from 30 or so groups again
Old 22 October 2008, 04:39 PM
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You don't need to download headers any more, with or without Newzbin
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Yes but Newzbin does make life easier

Old 25 October 2008, 10:41 AM
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Genuine question, what does Newzbin provide that you can't get elsewhere?

I used to use Newzbin about 3-4 years back, but haven't had the need with improvements in apps and other sites.
Old 25 October 2008, 10:53 AM
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Dunk, I'm like you I've been using newzbin for over 4 years now.

I suppose I'm just used to it, I like the way everything is categorised, downloading NZB files etc

Is there a better alternative I've been missing?

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I know what you mean, my first port of call always used to be Newzbin. I tend to use private tracker torrent sites to keep up with whats new now and when its released, but just don't use the torrents.

If its TV series' that I regulally grab then I just search from within alt.binZ and 99.9% of the time returns what I'm after.

If I'm really stuck or if the search engines that alt.binZ uses doesn't return what I want then I use nzb sites, but rarely need to rely on nzb's to be honest
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I mainly download TV shows, Heroes, Desperate Housewives etc

I'll give alt.binZ a try

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Its a superb free app, but its worth making a small donation to get the latest version with full searching of Newzleech, Binsearch, NZBIndex etc
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Cheers Dunk

I'll take a look when I get home

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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Its a superb free app, but its worth making a small donation to get the latest version with full searching of Newzleech, Binsearch, NZBIndex etc
So surely when those search sites get sued and closed down you'l be no better off?

Is there a way to do it without downloading headers and not using internet search engines?

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Originally Posted by Geezer
So surely when those search sites get sued and closed down you'l be no better off?

Is there a way to do it without downloading headers and not using internet search engines?

Geezer
I think the issue against Newzbin currently is the fact they 'index'

I may be wrong but that's how I understand it.

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Originally Posted by Geezer
So surely when those search sites get sued and closed down you'l be no better off?
Its the ones that provide NZB's I would think are liable to get into trouble. The others purely provide indexes of what files are in which groups. I've not really looked into why they are suing them.

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Is there a way to do it without downloading headers and not using internet search engines?
Yes. Programs like alt.binZ (Grabit & newsleecher now too I understand) don't require you to download headers to obtain binary files. Just search, get a results list, choose a set to download, thats it.
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I've used the SuperSearch part of Newsleecher and it's very good

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