messiah

Without giving any spoilers - can someone tell me how you beat the last "B&B"?

kbsub

Whats the game like ? I see Gamespot have given it 10/10 and the said its the best looking game so far.

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scoobyverysoon

iTrader: (1)

Does look good

I will be buying a PS3 after my jollys and this will be my first game me thinks

messiah

It is something special - the best game I've played in a long time. Excellent graphics and gameplay - if you're not into sneaking games you can play it as an FPS if you like.

A lot has been said about the cutscenes, but there aren't any that come it at 90 mins like has been reported - the longest is around an hour, and its the game's ending. There's another about midway which is about 40 mins, but its's split in 2 - the end of 1 act and the mission briefing for the next.

Story is superb, esp. if you've played all the previous games, there's lots of nods towards them.

Can't really say too much for fear of giving away some spoilers as there's a lot of memorable moments.

Not just the best thing on the PS3 - but dare I say this generation of consoles so far...

WhatswiththeR

iTrader: (1)

never been a fan of mgs games, i hate all that sneaking aroung malarky rather just kill em all, suppose thats y i never completed one lol although i seen trailers for it and it does look good, guess i'll rent it and see.

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

Can you pause the cut scenes?

messiah

yes - you can skip them too if you want but most are pretty much essential to the story, explaining what's happened in the earlier games.

PeteBrant

I think the pausing is the important bit. There's nothing more annoying that being mid cut scene and the phone ringing or such like, and not being able to pause it.

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

So is it like Splinter Cell in the stealth style? Never played a MGS game.

scoobyverysoon

iTrader: (1)

Yeah sort of its also like syphon filter - all 3 of them games are quality IMO

messiah

You can play it as the traditional stealth game, or you can switch it to be like a FPS - I did a mixture of the 2.

There's rewards at the end of the game that you receive that you can use on subsequent play's - but to unlock them you must do stuff like don't kill anyone or not alerting any enemies.

kbsub

Not read a bad review yet of this game might one of the few games I actually buy for the PS3

bob269

But is it worth buying a PS3 for ?

kbsub

Cant answer that myself as I bought the PS3 for Blu Ray and I'm very happy with it, But its also nice to have when a good game like this comes along

messiah

Erm... I'd say yes - read a report that sales in the US have jumped 180%. It's definately a cracking title, very cinematic, the actions a little OTT & cliche'd in places but it's better than half the stuff Hollywood is putting out these days!

Graphics are excellent and varied, the promo video's alway seem to show the Middle East setting, but that's only the first of 5 Acts. There's also a few gameplay "oddities" which I won't give away - If you played the first game on the PS1, you might remember having to switch controller ports so that a Psychic couldn't anticipate your moves...

I started playing it again last night - and not an achievement point in sight...

Iain Young

Is it worth buying any console for one game?

Not sure whether to try this or not. Tempted, but I've read a lot of negative things about it (and I find 1 minute cut scenes too long )...

PeteBrant

Tricky..

I think there atre lots of peopel that do - One game will tip them over the edge - hence the term "system seller".

No doubt Mario 64 sold millions of N64's and Tekken sold millions of Playstations..

Iain Young

PS3 is the only console I've bought so far for "one game", and so far it's been the only console I've ever bought that I've been dissappointed with

Still tempted by MGS4 though, although I will skip all of the cut scenes

bob269

Exactly, it's already got it's share of games, this could be the one that just pushes that little extra.

PeteBrant

There are a few exclusive franchises that undoubtably sells consoles, and MGS is undoubtably one of them, along with Mario, GTA (when it was exclusive), GT, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest (in Japan) and of course Halo.

I really am, in two minds about MGS, I really want to pick it up, but its like an investment with time, it's not the sort of game you can pick up for 30 mins or so - Not with those cutscenes

They should have an option at the start of the game - Detailed full on cut scenes, or brief overview cutscenes. Thing is, I think that cutscenes in games with a storyline attached do serve a purpose. They give a you a context of what's happened, and what's coming next and why you are doing it. And sometimes its great to see an over the top extravaganza of a cut scene as a result of your actions. They also serve to build up a bit of tension, or set a mood.

I mean some of th great gaming moments have been in cutsecen form - Aeris dying in FFVII and the entrance of the Flood in Halo spring to mind (you know the whole helmet cam thing).

But it is a fine line between thinking "oooh this is great" and "Oh FFS, get on with it".

messiah

The majority of the big cutscenes are all the Mission Breifings - you can skip these but still access them from the main menu.

TBH, it'd be like reading Lord Of The Rings while ignoring the back story - you can do it, but should you?

Totally recommend the game - £37.97 in Woolies I saw yesterday.

PeteBrant

This is getting some big, big love over at rllmukforum.com. I may have just convinced myself to pick it up over the weekend.

messiah

well, at 33 gigs it might be a while before it appears on 360... if it ever does.

Iain Young

How big an install is it on the PS3?

messiah

I think it's around 8gb in total, there's an initial install that takes about 8 minutes and loads 4gb onto the HDD. There's also another install before each Act which take about 2 minutes.

Oddly though - when I went into the system to see how much it had taken up it was just saying 146kb for the save so I thought I might delete the install once its finished with it, but after restarting the game for a 2nd play it didn't run through the install process...

bob269

A 2 minute wait to play each act, and this is to improve load times??, thats genius

Iain Young

Ah well, I won't be getting it then (not got that much space free).

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

what would happen if you tried to play it then? error message or tell you to delete some stuff?

PeteBrant

It would probably ask him how it doesn't have 8GB space free when he doesn't use it for playing games

Iain Young

Got some music, photos and videos on there, plus 2gb install for GT5, several downloaded games from PSN (including things like Warhawk etc). A 40gb HD fills up surprisingly quickly...