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Old 01 August 2006, 11:20 PM
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Default Blu Ray vs HD-DVD...The first comparisons

http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature...omparison.html

Looks like HD is slightly better at the moment
Old 02 August 2006, 09:18 AM
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I wonder who'll end up like Betamax, my moneys on Blue Ray.
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I hope it's Blue Ray.

It's all down to which format the p0rn industry adopts
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
I hope it's Blue Ray.

It's all down to which format the p0rn industry adopts
The **** boys will probably back both if they can make twice as much money, depends on production costs vs profit i guess
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal

It's all down to which format the p0rn industry adopts


That's why we have VHS now
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Originally Posted by Swen6
That's why we have VHS now
I know! even though betamax was considered the better of the two!
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Not only can the **** business make you blind, it can ruin your company, talk about a double kick in the nads

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I dont have much faith in blu-ray going by sonys previous attempts Minidisk and UMD. Blu-ray and UMD are good for the PS3 and PSP but thats it IMHO, i dont think either will make it on anything else other than the two said and will end up like minidisk. Fairplay to them for trying different things but doubt they'll take off
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From what I understand there is little in the way of technical differences, apart from Blu-Ray being able to have many more layers than HD-DVD, TDK have supposedly got 8x layered discs on the go housing 200GB.

The real difference is with the end purpose - Microsoft, backing HD-DVD wants everyone to be able stream media around the home, and the film companies dont like the idea as it means any copy protection on the discs is minimal if at all any. Sony (and remember they are also a film studio) want the discs to be much more anti-piracy oriented - and most of the other film studios seem to agree, but many are supoorting both formats until a clear winner comes out.

It seems like Sony is producing a format specifically to make the film industry happy and Microsoft et al are backing the format that the public want.

Basically, If I'm buying HD films I want the highest quality I can get - and thats 1080p and only Blu-Ray supports it.
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Originally Posted by messiah
Basically, If I'm buying HD films I want the highest quality I can get - and thats 1080p and only Blu-Ray supports it.
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Originally Posted by messiah
Basically, If I'm buying HD films I want the highest quality I can get - and thats 1080p and only Blu-Ray supports it.
Thats just not correct. Content on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray are stored on disc in 1080p format.

The current range of HD-DVD players output at 1080i because of the lack of support for the resolution in current TV's. If you wanted 1080p its possible, but very costly.

Its basically the Sony bullsh!t machine working overtime again trying to spread the rumour that HD-DVD doesn't support 1080p. Don't believe the hype
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Thats just not correct. Content on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray are stored on disc in 1080p format.
Interesting... don't care which one wins then!
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HD-DVD it is for me. Sorry, but stuff paying the premium for Sony products when there is similar available for much less.

I'm not a tighterse btw. I just can't see the point in paying over the odd's, for something that does the same thing...
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Thats just not correct. Content on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray are stored on disc in 1080p format.

The current range of HD-DVD players output at 1080i because of the lack of support for the resolution in current TV's. If you wanted 1080p its possible, but very costly.

Its basically the Sony bullsh!t machine working overtime again trying to spread the rumour that HD-DVD doesn't support 1080p. Don't believe the hype
Info came from a copy of PC Pro which assumed to be rather impartial.
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When are the players / disc expected on our shelves?
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Originally Posted by leonpoole
I dont have much faith in blu-ray going by sonys previous attempts Minidisk and UMD. Blu-ray and UMD are good for the PS3 and PSP but thats it IMHO, i dont think either will make it on anything else other than the two said and will end up like minidisk. Fairplay to them for trying different things but doubt they'll take off
Sony? Don't forget Apple, Dell, HP, Pioneer, Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, TDK, Thomson Twentieth Century Fox, Disney, Warner Bros, Columbia, TriStar, etc

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/general_i...009/Index.html

I would say HD stands absolutely no chance with only MS, Intel, Toshiba, Sanyo and NEC, Universal Studios.

And whatever happens the first mass market device will be the PS3 - moan all you want but they will sell like hotcakes.
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There's a lot of misquoting and duff information flying about from MS, Sony and others, easy for it to be misinterpreted. No doubt we can expect more mud-slinging as the race hots up
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The HD-DVD supporting movie studios represent more than 40 percent of Hollywood’s films. The Blu-ray backing entertainment companies amount to about 35 percent. Hardly 'no chance' is it ?

My vote goes to the Hybrid But then, who gives a stuff what consumers think anyway.
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
The HD-DVD supporting movie studios represent more than 40 percent of Hollywood’s films. The Blu-ray backing entertainment companies amount to about 35 percent. Hardly 'no chance' is it ?

My vote goes to the Hybrid But then, who gives a stuff what consumers think anyway.
Reality is that studios will produce both apart from a couple which have got exclusivity deals with the different formats. Blu-ray has got more of these.

I'm sure they'll be players in a year or two that play both anyway.
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yea well basicly i am pretty sure microsoft said hmmm so sony is suporting blue ray? the douche bags!!! we will make a HD-DVD addon for our xbox to spite them. none the less if the hd dvd happens to win, sony will be hurting. blue ray is pretty expensive atm and unless it becomes somewhat main stream it will be expensive. this will be a very intresting outcome ^___^
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If there is to be a clear winner i think it will be the one which is cheapest in terms of blank media. The one people can buy to burn their on HD data to. At the mo that looks like HD-DVD.
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Can you play normal DVDs on a Blue-Ray machine? I know you can on HD-DVD players.
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
Can you play normal DVDs on a Blue-Ray machine? I know you can on HD-DVD players.
Yes, both must support the DVD format.
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I'm sure the film studios will produce for both formats, especially if it means they will make more money.
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what everyone is forgetting this time next year there will be in excess of 5 million blue-ray players in peoples homes, courtesy of sony. And people will buy films to play on said player as well as playing games on it.

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But there will also be 10 million 360's shipped by the end of THIS year . . . . all HD-DVD capable with the new addon drive.

Whilst the big boys are arguing over future disc formats, the telecoms industry is gearing up for HD streaming content. Pah, who needs discs ?
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Also a player being made that will play both hd-dvd and blueray discs
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Default PlayStation 4 to drop discs?

From T3, I think
PlayStation 4 to drop discs?
Sony lets slip its vision for the PS3’s successor… sort of.

Sony's put all its money on Blu-Ray, but says we might not need it in a few years... [more images]You can stop worrying about whether to buy a Blu-ray player or hold your horses for HD-DVD – Sony says by the time PlayStation 4 rolls around we won’t need discs at all!

This juicy nugget of next-gen info comes courtesy of Phil Harrison, Sony’s president of worldwide studios.

“I’d be amazed if the PlayStation 4 has a physical disc drive,” he told Wired magazine – which means that we could have ditched Blu-ray in the next five or six years, grabbing games and movies by broadband instead.

It’s a tempting prospect, but of course we’ll need a massive broadband upgrade before getting Hi-Def flicks down the phone line.

Plus, with HDCP and HDMI will you be able to copy/record HD content?
Think all the good stuff (films and sport) will be locked via HDCP

With 100mb bband on the way and 750GB HDD drives available, above makes sense.
Won't be long before we have olive oil memory cheaper than semi's.....

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Originally Posted by Barmyclown
what everyone is forgetting this time next year there will be in excess of 5 million blue-ray players in peoples homes, courtesy of sony. And people will buy films to play on said player as well as playing games on it.

Jase
Look at the PSP mate, Film studios made films for that and soon realised it was a mistake.
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Originally Posted by sienar33
From T3, I think
PlayStation 4 to drop discs?
Sony lets slip its vision for the PS3’s successor… sort of.

Sony's put all its money on Blu-Ray, but says we might not need it in a few years... [more images]You can stop worrying about whether to buy a Blu-ray player or hold your horses for HD-DVD – Sony says by the time PlayStation 4 rolls around we won’t need discs at all!

This juicy nugget of next-gen info comes courtesy of Phil Harrison, Sony’s president of worldwide studios.

“I’d be amazed if the PlayStation 4 has a physical disc drive,” he told Wired magazine – which means that we could have ditched Blu-ray in the next five or six years, grabbing games and movies by broadband instead.

It’s a tempting prospect, but of course we’ll need a massive broadband upgrade before getting Hi-Def flicks down the phone line.

Plus, with HDCP and HDMI will you be able to copy/record HD content?
Think all the good stuff (films and sport) will be locked via HDCP

With 100mb bband on the way and 750GB HDD drives available, above makes sense.
Won't be long before we have olive oil memory cheaper than semi's.....

How slow are Sony???, Microsoft are already doing trials for the game download thing, at the moment they're making it work Live Arcade anyone.
It makes sense to allow DL on all games, it'll reduce cost as they'll be no packaging, no need for a 3rd party outlet, you won't have to leave home.
They're trying to fine tune the piracy thing.


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