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Old 15 July 2004, 09:46 PM
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Need some advice.

I have a broadband connection which assigns a dynamic ip address. This ip address usually changes every 1-2 days.

My domain name also changes:

examples being:

user-xxxx.lx.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk

where xxxx is a different 4 digit number and x is a number between 1 - 9.

Now I have been restricted unfairly from a company on the web who have closed down my account. They have also said that if I open up another account under an ip address that is related to me, that account will be closed.

Now my question is, how can they tell it is me from a dynamic ip address and domain name? I don't think they can.

I have a friend who is quite happy for me to register his details and use his account on my pc so that I can carry on as per normal.

Now I reckon if I do that, there is no way they can prove it is me or can they?

I have got rid of all my cookies so am I safe to open up an account for a friend and use his account?

Can any experts out there provide any info or advice.

The company in question is an online bookmaker, so nothing sinister in case you were worried.

Thanks in advance.
Old 15 July 2004, 10:12 PM
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You will be assigned an ip number from a range from your ISP, they could block the range (I do it often at work) therefor blocking any number you are assigned..
Old 15 July 2004, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
You will be assigned an ip number from a range from your ISP, they could block the range (I do it often at work) therefor blocking any number you are assigned..
But would that not block everyone who uses the same isp as me?
Old 15 July 2004, 10:30 PM
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Yes, but what are the odds someone else in that range would also be on the same site to be effected? Bans are usually by name, then IP, then IP range. If you persist in comiong back (and yes, the admins can tell it's you) then they may notify your ISP if you have been in breech of their terms.


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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Yes, but what are the odds someone else in that range would also be on the same site to be effected? Bans are usually by name, then IP, then IP range. If you persist in comiong back (and yes, the admins can tell it's you) then they may notify your ISP if you have been in breech of their terms.


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How can the tell that it is me?

The range of ip addresses and domain ids assigned to me over the last few weeks would mean up to 809,919 users would fall under the same range.
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Originally Posted by Fast_Blue_Scooby
How can the tell that it is me?

The range of ip addresses and domain ids assigned to me over the last few weeks would mean up to 809,919 users would fall under the same range.

and just to add, I would say that out of these users, hundreds per day, maybe thousands per week would be on using the site.
Old 15 July 2004, 10:51 PM
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Old 15 July 2004, 10:57 PM
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Not quite as straightforward as this I'm afraid. The ID you are seeing may or may not be the whole ID that is assigned to you by your ISP. The company that has blocked you maybe doing reverse DNS lookups to discover unique machine names (that is, if your ISP routers will respond correctly). This ID doesn't change. I would have a look at Gibson Research.

Run his 'Shields Up' program (about half way down the page) - this should give you your machine ID. Read what he says about this (can't remember all the details). Run the program again in a few days and see if the result changes. If it doesn't then, regardless of the dynamic IP address assigned to you, the company could block you.

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Chris L is absolutely correct. A friend of mine does it all the time to abusers of his service.
Old 16 July 2004, 03:22 AM
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That isn't a unique ID to your house across different PPP sessions unless you have a static IP. The reverse DNS will change just as your IP does, since it's mapped directly in DNS.

The only real issue with comparing the reverse lookup to a provided hostname is with multiple-homed machines, because you can only have one PTR record per IP.
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Thanks for all the replies.

My reverse DNS lookup follows the following format:

user-xxxx.lx.cx.dsl.pol.co.uk

and is different every day so there is no way I can be traced. Is that correct?

For info, I was banned for winning. Yes that is right. These online bookies are the biggest cheats going. They only want mug punters to play their virtual horse racing games/casino games etc. If you start to win on the horses or football or any sport then they restrict your account and then eventually close it.
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Good pioint Steve - although my machine ID hasn't changed, even when my dynamic IP address has - perhaps NTL do something different?

Puff's idea about an anonymous proxy is a good one, although the company in question may well be running some form of URL blocker that will filter out known anonymous proxies (I know I would if I was in their position )

How about using a different ISP connection? If you are only playing occassionaly use something like Freedom 2 Surf's Pay As You Go service. Something like a penny a minute and totally anonymous.

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There are 1000s & 1000s of anonymous proxies
Old 16 July 2004, 11:47 AM
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Just depends on how good your blocker is I suppose
Old 16 July 2004, 12:24 PM
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Just to confirm:

If my ip changes and so does my id which I have proved, then I am safe? No one can tell it is me?
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Well, some Anonymous proxies are better than others...

Try them out through Shields UP from grc.com or http://www.all-nettools.com/toolbox (environmental check)
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