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Old 09 January 2003, 12:38 PM
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Automatically

Sorry had the say it. Boot from a Windows XP CDrom and it searches for previous installations and if it can fix them it will if I won't you are on your own

Its quite easy really, just follow the on screen instructions.

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[Edited by darlodge - 9/1/2003 12:40:34 PM]
Old 31 August 2003, 11:05 AM
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turned on the desktop this morning and it comes up with:

NTLDR is missing
Press ctrl alt del to restart

WTF is going on?

any help appreciated as I don't really understand the commands needed in xp recovery console

Andy
Old 31 August 2003, 12:11 PM
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Microsoft talking about this topic:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;;Q314057
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318728
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;301680
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;119467

Old 31 August 2003, 01:13 PM
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I'm Too much of a NooB

I have copied the NTLDR and NTdetect.com files from the XP cd as instructed
I have renamed the NTdetect.com file to setupldr.bin

The next bit I'm totally confused on.
I have made a Boot.ini file and this is what I have written.
---------------------------------
[boot loader]
timeout=30
Default= scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt

[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt="Windows NT"

-----------------------------------

What should I write there as this is not fixing de promblembo !

I have One SCSI HDD with the O/S on C:
It is partitioned to 7GB for the system files,

Edit to add : It is a mixed SCSI / IDE system though (two)!
The IDE HDD's do not have O/s on!



Andy


[Edited by Fuzz - 8/31/2003 1:20:42 PM]
Old 31 August 2003, 01:40 PM
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Mmmm shouldnt it be
(Just a suggestion)

[boot loader]
timeout=30
Default= scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt

[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt="Windows XP" / fastdetect

Your OS is XP not NT
Old 31 August 2003, 01:48 PM
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you could be a star... will see in a mo


if your right, talk about stating the bleeding obvious.
I was concentrating on the numbers in the brackets to hard to notice the NT tag

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Old 31 August 2003, 01:56 PM
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[boot loader]
timeout=30
Default= scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows

[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows="Window s XP" / fastdetect
that's what Iv'e written now

edit for a second go
Andy

[Edited by Fuzz - 8/31/2003 2:05:04 PM]

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Old 31 August 2003, 02:07 PM
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Angry

nope
Old 31 August 2003, 02:18 PM
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shouldnt you then type

copy a:\Boot.ini c:\

to load the missing files to HD ?????
Old 31 August 2003, 02:24 PM
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Boot from a Windows XP CD and it searches for previous installations and allows you to correct them.

I buggered up my installation of XP once (not sure how though) and had to start pissing around with fix mbr commands as I did not have a Windows XP CD. I was not really sure what I was doing but I thought it can't get much worse.

Darren
Old 31 August 2003, 02:24 PM
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I was assuming it took the drivers off the floppy when ready

(like it did for the raid controllers a while ago)

take 3


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Old 31 August 2003, 02:35 PM
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It's getting near the stage of FORMAT and RE INSTALL I'll tell ya


[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

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Old 31 August 2003, 02:55 PM
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this explains more using the Recovery console

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314058
Old 31 August 2003, 03:14 PM
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ahhh basking infront of 1280 x 1024 once again...

XP automated recovery does me

trying to do it all manually was just far too much grief!
especially from a NooB like me

Thanks for your help anyway

Andy
Old 31 August 2003, 03:19 PM
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coool at least its working now

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<dabs brow with handkerchief>

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Old 01 September 2003, 11:53 AM
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How does auto recovery work?
Old 01 September 2003, 07:01 PM
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set bios to boot first from cd.
XP disk in drive...
press F6 to load SATA drivers
continue as you would for a "first install"
It then says somethingf along the lines of, "It has found a previous install of windows" "would you like to try and fix it".
click yes
same screen comes up as "first boot" type, various driver installs later, it's back up and running,

Jobs.. a good un

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Old 01 September 2003, 10:42 PM
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When I tried auto recovery it asked for a floppy.
Old 01 September 2003, 11:49 PM
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Not here it didn't

well only the raid controller inf files at the start.
the rest, off the XP disk (XP Pro if that makes any difference)

When XP had finished installing system files it did ask for various bits of hardware controllers to be installed, but they were all on CD-ROM anyway.

Andy
Old 02 September 2003, 10:38 AM
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You sure it was auto recovery and not a fresh install

Sounds like you re-installed XP if it asked for the raid drivers
Old 02 September 2003, 04:35 PM
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if I fresh installed XP, would I not have lost the content of "my pictures" folder, let alone all the drivers and "links" to the games HDD drive ?

I had to install raid drivers at the start as it does not recognise any hard disks being present if not. (the two IDE drives were unplugged to make sure it gave it the C: prefix, as last time it gave priority to the IDE drives). Grrrr

Andy
Defo not a fresh install
Old 03 September 2003, 12:05 PM
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Ah, you just let XP install over itself, I see now. I ended up searching on google and found a zip recovery file for the problem. It had Io.sys, Msdos.sys, Ntdetect.com, ntldr and the boot.ini on it and I just copied them over to c: from the console, took two minutes. Im going to keep these handy on floppy just in case
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