Chris@Excal

Am trying to network 2 machines togther at home and am getting nowhere! Have one machine that is running XP, soon to have ADSL on so I want to use that as my main machine. I have a lap top that I use at work to connect to the network. The lap top runs on 98. Am using a 3com hub that we had lying around to connect the 2. I have checked and all cables are working OK and connected properly.
Under XP I am using the network wizard which seems to run fine, then I put the floppy in the 98 Laptop and run the wizard. The screen says this takes several minutes, but after about 20 it still has not done anything. What am I doing wrong?
Also is there not a way that when the lap top boots I can choose which domain I am trying to log onto? It seems that this wizard is trying to change the whole config of the lap top.
Help me if you can.....please!
Chris

Re-Volt

hello ... dont use the wizards to do it. make sure both do have the same workgroup name and assign ip address dont let xp or win98 to assign it auto. and make sure they are suitable for the subnet mask. u can use 111.111.111.1 and 111.111.111.2 and use the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 . i guess that should solve it.

regards ...

stevencotton

Err don't just invent IP addresses as above, use a non-routable internal address class.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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10.x.x.x
192.168.x.x

Chris@Excal

Ummm, OK. I am lost, I spend all day talking about this but don't really understand! assign ip address, umm, where do I go for that?
Also is there a way I can get the choice of what network I log on to?
Thanks,

Tony_W

Chris,

Right click on Network Neighbourhood on desktop.

Select properties.
Open TCP/IP for the ethernet card you have fitted to the PC/Laptop.
Select "Manual IP address", rather than let the PC Automatically assign..
Set as 192.168.01. with subnet Mask (next tab along) set to 255.255.255.0. Name the PC as say PC1.
Click OK and let it add everything it needs to (may need win98 disk)
Then go into the Identification tab (still in Properties for Network Neighbourhood)and name the PC as before, plus name the workgroup e.g. LAN1.
Click Apply/OK.

Add NETBEUI (you will see Add/Remove option under the list of TCP/IP items e.t.c

you will be asked to reboot..do it and your win98 Laptop should now be set up.

The only thing left to do is go into My Computer, then right click on each Hard Drive you wish to share, select Sharing and name accordingly + password + allow full access. You will have to reboot again after this.

Do the same thing in XP (it shouldn't ask for the CD..) BUT..set the IP address on this one to 192.168.01.02, with same Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.0. Remember to name the PC differently to the LapTop but make sure you name the workgroup the same i.e. LAN1.

Again right click on each hard driver (or folder) and allow sharing e.t.c.
Reboot and, provided the hub is switched on and you have the Cat5 cable plugged into each PC/Laptop and hub..you should be able to see each PC when you double left click on Network Neighbourhood on the desktop (you may have to open "My Network" or whatever it's called)


All this was off the top of my head so I might not be completely accurate on the names of each item, but you should be able to do it form the instructions..

If not, email me and I'll help you.

Tony

Chris@Excal

Tony, Brilliant, that is what I was looking for, will try that tonight and let you know how I get on....!
Had a frustrating day as I have been trying to get ADSL at home to work, spent 4 hours this morning to find out the problem is that BT have not configured the line properly...... sometimes I hate computers!!

Michael Robinson

that's right, fill in the machine ip as above and put in a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, don't bother with a gateway (not needed). then as a simple test, do the following.

open the command screen. (start - run - type "command" and press ok)
then type in the following "ping 192.168.0.1 0r 2 depending what the other machine is) then hit return.
if it has worked, you will see 4 ping values and if it has not, post how far you got on here.

dsmith

a straight through patch cable from each PC to the hub will be fine....

Deano

Michael Robinson

yep sorry, only read his original after writting that.

Chris@Excal

Yep, have a patch panel from each going to the hub, does this negate any of your earlier comments?
Running XP professional.
Thanks,
Chris

dfullerton

Or just use a twisted pair cable and ditch the hub

Foot_Tapper

Hi Chris,
you say that you use the laptop to connect to the network in the office.
After making all these network config changes, your laptop will
NOT connect to the network when you get back into the office.
(unless you are VERY lucky).
You will have to put it back to original state to log on,...
unless you do this NO email, NO network resources,NO printing.
Something to think about. If you cannot get it back on the network
at work, the support staff will not be too chuffed when they see what you have been doin.
Sorry to put a damper on it.

Chris@Excal

Hey, success!!
Had problems trying last night, the network card could not be set up for TCP/IP so had to ring a friend. After uninstalling it and reinstalling on the XP machine, went to the ADSL Connection, properties then went to the tab which allows you to share the computer for internet connection, set the domain to House (original!), then this assigns the 98 machine an IP address when I log on to the same network. All now works...hurray!
Only thing I have to now do on the laptop is right click on Network Neighbourhood, Identification then change domain from House to work, reboot and we are there! Thanks for all the help as I really did not get even close to right. Just trying to find a longer crossover cable then I can get rid of the hub!
Chris

Fig

Minor correction

First PC should be 192.168.0.1 (not 192.168.01) suggest this is the XP box as this will be the "first" machine)
Second should be 192.168.0.2 (not 192.168.01.02)

You may also find the 98 machine has "restricted" access to files on the XP machine. It will not be able to see inside system folders etc. you should be able to overcome this by creating a user on the XP box with the same username/password as the 98 box. you will then need to set the XP box so that users accessing it via the LAN validate as themselves, not guests. (Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Local Security Settings > Network Access - Sharing and Security model for Local Accounts)






[Edited by Fig - 1/6/2003 3:47:39 PM]

Michael Robinson

you using xp home or professional ?

[Edited by Michael Robinson - 1/6/2003 3:56:58 PM]