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Old 26 October 2016, 04:48 PM
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/...ouchscreen-pc/

This is really nice if you can't have an iMac.


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Old 26 October 2016, 08:17 PM
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Not getting into a Apple vs MS debate.

I have owned various iMacs over the years (from the 2006 version, currently on a 27" 2015 model) love them. But, this will be replacing it...

Microsoft have really upped their game with hardware over the last few years.
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Old 26 October 2016, 08:53 PM
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$3,000 a bit risky.
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So probably 3,000 GBP when it arrives here. You're right, it's a lot of money.

The specs look great though, especially with the 980M graphics. The 'Surface Dial' would be really useful for CAD modelling and love the way it folds down.
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I really like the form factor and who doesn't like twisty dials. I have high hopes but things like the Surface stylus issues would worry me.
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"...you can't do that on a Mac..."
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Old 26 October 2016, 10:44 PM
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"...you can't do that on a Mac..."
Those adverts are an embarrassment.
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"...you can't do that on a Mac..."
Those adverts are good fun. It feels like the oppinions of someone who got everything they know of Mac from the internet, rather than actually trying one.
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"you can't use a touchscreen on a laptop that doesn't have one"
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So probably 3,000 GBP when it arrives here. You're right, it's a lot of money.

The specs look great though, especially with the 980M graphics. The 'Surface Dial' would be really useful for CAD modelling and love the way it folds down.
Being and M model graphics card it will be crap for CAD. graphics is one thing you don't want to scrimp on for CAD packages.
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I really like the form factor and who doesn't like twisty dials. I have high hopes but things like the Surface stylus issues would worry me.
What issues have you heard of? Genuinely curious, as I've not encountered issues with my wifes SP3.
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Originally Posted by On-the-bog
Being and M model graphics card it will be crap for CAD. graphics is one thing you don't want to scrimp on for CAD packages.
It uses an Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M GPU with 4GB though, not exactly a slouch, I know it could better but either way it should be able to cope with CAD.
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What issues have you heard of? Genuinely curious, as I've not encountered issues with my wifes SP3.
I see the same latency complaints on reddit all the time surface pro 4 latency - Google Search
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The same latency that you can see on some of the adverts?
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It uses an Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M GPU with 4GB though, not exactly a slouch, I know it could better but either way it should be able to cope with CAD.
Depends what your doing, with 3D modeling becoming the norm even for lighter CAD packages (such as autocad moving over to revit or similar) then i wouldn't want to be stuck with one of those for a 3 or 4 year life cycle.
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3D modelling is the big one, programmes like Catia really work a machine hard.
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3D modelling is the big one, programmes like Catia really work a machine hard.
Yep, so when you see slow down even on basic CAD packages your wasting your time with anything else
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Yea well i don't think the device we are talking about is designed or intended for 3D modelling/CAD anyway. Its more for Graphic design.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Yea well i don't think the device we are talking about is designed or intended for 3D modelling/CAD anyway. Its more for Graphic design.

Which are even worse, we can chuck multiple cards, man gig's of ram to suit our top end needs.
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32GB of ram should be fine? What do you use other than Photoshop/lightroom?
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Originally Posted by bengo
Not getting into a Apple vs MS debate.

I have owned various iMacs over the years (from the 2006 version, currently on a 27" 2015 model) love them. But, this will be replacing it...

Microsoft have really upped their game with hardware over the last few years.
I have a few colleague who have the Surface Pro's and they are really disappointed in them

the docking station does not seem to have been tested properly

but happy to admit anecdotal
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