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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 11:59 PM
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Default Apple iPhone 7...the Walled off computer

Great article here posted earlier.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/09/...osed-computer/

Its great having fanboys deny any of these rumours as they get sucked further and further into the choking and restrictive Apple eco system.

getting set for the iPhone 7 purchase......





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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 02:41 AM
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Some how I'm getting the feeling she doth protest too much


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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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I reckon more than 90% of the people on those pics are vegan lol
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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There's two ways of looking at this

Apple are a bunch grabbing *******s and now you will have to fork out for expensive earphones, with poor sound quality if you go wireless, or you can't listen to music whilst charging (a more important one, actually, is you can't use your phone for something like a long conference call with headphones as you would have to constantly keep unplugging them to charge it)

They are the first to ditch something which ultimately has to go if we want to move to super slim folding phones.

I suspect the answer is partly both, but driven more by the former, as that has always been the apple way.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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Oops


http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1388...headphone-jack
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Don't panic

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new...ingadapter.jpg

Shall we call it the "idoor". (to get through that mystical "wall")

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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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is this thread really still going ? Who cares what phones people buy! Does it really matter that much ?
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty81
is this thread really still going ? Who cares what phones people buy! Does it really matter that much ?
Er, I think you might be thinking of the other thread, which is many pages long and degraded into the usual.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Don't panic

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new...ingadapter.jpg

Shall we call it the "idoor". (to get through that mystical "wall")
Does that allow you to charge whilst using? Doesn't look like it.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Does that allow you to charge whilst using? Doesn't look like it.
There will be a ton of them.

The car argument was solid - I remember Pre Bluetooth - until I saw a thing that plugs into your *** lighter and does everything, Audio Jack, Bluetooth and Lightning/USB. I don't need it so didn't dig deep but it was not a lot of money. Plug it in forget about it.

Any other time two cables drives me nuts.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
There will be a ton of them.

The car argument was solid - I remember Pre Bluetooth - until I saw a thing that plugs into your *** lighter and does everything, Audio Jack, Bluetooth and Lightning/USB. I don't need it so didn't dig deep but it was not a lot of money. Plug it in forget about it.

Any other time two cables drives me nuts.
Sorry, Jack, I don't follow? How can it do all that? Surely if it's bluetooth it's wireless, so at some point you will have to change over? Have I missed something?

I suppose for phones that can charge wirelessly you could get away with it. Does iPhone support wireless charging?
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Does that allow you to charge whilst using? Doesn't look like it.
If that's such an issue get the Bluetooth ones
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Originally Posted by Devildog
If that's such an issue get the Bluetooth ones
That somewhat defeats the point, though, doesn't it? I had a call with IBM for an issue, I was on one call for 12 hours, on my mobile. I don't really want to worry about changing bluetooth headsets, or having to hold the phone to my ear whilst it charges.

As I said, the other alternative is wireless charging, but I don't know if iPhone supports that. If not, then that presents a problem.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
That somewhat defeats the point, though, doesn't it? I had a call with IBM for an issue, I was on one call for 12 hours, on my mobile. I don't really want to worry about changing bluetooth headsets, or having to hold the phone to my ear whilst it charges.

As I said, the other alternative is wireless charging, but I don't know if iPhone supports that. If not, then that presents a problem.
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At last!

I don't listen to music, so it doesn't really matter to me, but it would be a deal clincher if you couldn't charge and use a headset at the same time.

All we need now is cheaper, third party versions of that.

I think other companies will follow suit, but you do need an alternative like that, it would be remiss of any manufacturer not to give you that option.

For other users though, I can't imagine why you would be in a position where you would be listening to music for that long, the batteries on these things last a long time. But, then again, maybe some people think you'd never spend 12 hours on one phone call!
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Sorry, Jack, I don't follow? How can it do all that? Surely if it's bluetooth it's wireless, so at some point you will have to change over? Have I missed something?

I suppose for phones that can charge wirelessly you could get away with it. Does iPhone support wireless charging?
Something like this but without the button and probably made by slaves as it wasn't that much http://www.belkin.com/uk/p/P-F4U037/
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OK, I see, thanks.
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its an Apple lightning accessory, this is what the article is relating to.

Apple are basically forcing users to use Apple accessories for, well everything.

And to answer a posters earlier query, no the iPhone has no such support for wireless charging or fast charging.

If some people are happy with Apple, fair play to them.

Others like some breathing space and been able to make their own decisions, not decisions made by an office in Cupertino, who will control your life.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Something like this but without the button and probably made by slaves as it wasn't that much http://www.belkin.com/uk/p/P-F4U037/
Why should you need an accessory to do streaming through car speakers, with most other phones just stick on bluetooth on your phone and pair to your car and bobs your uncle.

my old 2008 lexus had bluetooth and it paired with my android 100% and my Subaru of the same year also worked with my old Note 5.

No need for faffing around with anything.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 11:48 PM
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https://griffintechnology.com/intl/i...dphone-adapter
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 07:05 AM
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Hahaha I wouldn't say my phone controls my life. But it does have everything I want on it, like being able to send messages, make phone calls, use the internet and listen to my music. Everything else I couldn't care less about because I wouldn't use it.
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Here we go again.

It's a phone that can do other stuff. The sooner people get over the sooner it they may realise there are more important things in life. Regardless of who makes it, so long as it works, has a reasonable rental charge and doesn't blow up. You won't see me queuing outside a store nor will you see me comparing Samsung/Apple to Satan's lovechild.

And if it doesn't do what you want it to do...buy something else?

The EarPods/airpod thing caters for non-audiophiles who don't care about audio quality (every EarPods supplied with my iPhones went straight in the bin). Bluetooth for audio streaming is also of the same irk...be car or home Bluetooth audio is inferior. Like DAB for music is also terrible as its MP2 compression (ergo extremely inefficient and outdated), yet people rave about it (does their hearing only go to 10khz?). But again it's a vast minority who notice this, and they'll have to suck it up and get over it...a 512gb memory stick in both the car and a NAS at home sorts most of that.

In fairness you shouldn't use a phone for car or home HiFi anyway



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id be more worried about the Chinese controlling your life than that johnny ive
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
Why should you need an accessory to do streaming through car speakers, with most other phones just stick on bluetooth on your phone and pair to your car and bobs your uncle.

my old 2008 lexus had bluetooth and it paired with my android 100% and my Subaru of the same year also worked with my old Note 5.

No need for faffing around with anything.
So what your saying is if you have a Bluetooth car stereo you don't need a Bluetooth car stereo adaptor, wise words mate.
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
its an Apple lightning accessory, this is what the article is relating to.

Apple are basically forcing users to use Apple accessories for, well everything.

And to answer a posters earlier query, no the iPhone has no such support for wireless charging or fast charging.

If some people are happy with Apple, fair play to them.

Others like some breathing space and been able to make their own decisions, not decisions made by an office in Cupertino, who will control your life.
But no one forces anyone to buy a particular brand of phone.

If you buy an iPhone 7 you know there's no separate headphone socket. Your choice. And there are multiple third party products out there should you wish to charge your phone and listen to music (or make 12 hour calls) at the same time.

The only "sheep" i'm seeing here is the poster who blindly accepts and shares sensationalist journalism without apparently being able to apply a common sense filter to what he (or she?) is reading.

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So what your saying is if you have a Bluetooth car stereo you don't need a Bluetooth car stereo adaptor, wise words mate.
I know you are not the smartest tool in the box, but what I am actually saying is if you have a bluetooth equipped phone and a bluetooth equipped car stereo thaat is the perfect mix for mind blowing sound through your car speakers...

via bluetooth.

if you dont own an iPhone that is.
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Originally Posted by Devildog
But no one forces anyone to buy a particular brand of phone.

If you buy an iPhone 7 you know there's no separate headphone socket. Your choice. And there are multiple third party products out there should you wish to charge your phone and listen to music (or make 12 hour calls) at the same time.

The only "sheep" i'm seeing here is the poster who blindly accepts and shares sensationalist journalism without apparently being able to apply a common sense filter to what he (or she?) is reading.
The sheep in most peoples eyes are the Iphone fans, the sames ones queuing up over night for them and the same ones whose eyes have been covered up with so much wool that they are none the wiser as to control and dominance Apple have over them.
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I know you love your big numbers and a good gloat Toffee Pie so I thought you like to see these that I just stumbled on.


DEVICE SINGLE-CORE MULTI-CORE
iPhone 7/7 Plus 3,450 5,630
Samsung Galaxy S7 1,806 5,213
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 1,786 5,228
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge 1,744 5,203
Huawei P9 1,729 4,735
OnePlus 3 1,698 4,015

That's twice as fast, twice! How on earth can that be, I mean Apple don't innovate so there's nothing new in that chip, I just can't work it out.
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