Mr Footlong

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It is a MSI board, like the info says, but I can't get much further than that. www.msicomputer.com isn't that much help. The easiest way is to look at the model on the mobo, as I know you are fully aware of .
They are normal in the middle of MSI boards in white paint.

Sorry dude, try www.motherboards.org and look at the various tools available, but eyes are always best.

Cheers,

Nick

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 6/3/2002 6:20:06 PM]

Mr Footlong

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If it is using the Whitney chipset, then the board is based on Intel's i810 chipset. This most likelty points to one of these fella's:

MS-6183 MS-6183 Slot 1 MicroATX Intel® 810/810DC/810E

MS-6178 MS-6178 Socket 370 MicroATX Intel® 810/810DC100

MS-6178E MS-6178E Socket 370 MicroATX Intel® 810E

MS-6183E MS-6183E Slot 1 MicroATX Intel® 810E

MS-6182 MS-6182 Socket 370 ATX Intel® 810 (421BGA)

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Nick


[Edited by Mr Footlong - 6/3/2002 6:18:35 PM]

ChristianR

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Hi,

Anyone know of a website that lists motherboards, and what the max processor you can have in it?

This is what I have:

AMIBIOS Motherboard Manufacturer Identification
Version 1.2 (02/07/2001) Copyright 2000 American Megatrends, Inc.

This file has recorded information useful in identifying the manufacturer
of this motherboard. The information is listed below:

An AMIBIOS ID String Was Detected:
63-10B1-001169-00101111-071595-WHITNEY
-- ---- ------ ------
| | | |
| | | Chipset/BIOS Info
| | Manufacturer ID
| Version Information
Processor & BIOS ROM Information

Manufacturer Code Detected: 1169 - MICRO-STAR INT'L CO., LTD.

Mr Footlong

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MS-6183 Slot 1 Mobo:

Intel PII (Klamath, Slot 1) 300MHz
Intel PII (Deschutes, Slot 1) 450MHz
Intel Celeron (w/o Cache, Slot 1) 300MHz
Intel Celeron A (Slot 1) 500MHz
Intel Celeron A (FPGA 370) 533MHz
Intel Celeron II (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 66) 766MHz
Intel PIII (Katmai, Slot 1, FSB 100) 600MHz
Intel PIIIB (Katmai, Slot 1, FSB 133) 600MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, Slot 1, FSB 100) 800MHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, Slot 1, FSB 133) 800MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 800MHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 133) 800MHz


MS-6183E socket 370 mobo:

Intel PII (Klamath, Slot 1) 300MHz
Intel PII (Deschutes, Slot 1) 450MHz
Intel Celeron (w/o Cache, Slot 1) 300MHz
Intel Celeron A (Slot 1) 500MHz
Intel Celeron A (FPGA 370) 500MHz
Intel Celeron II (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 66) 667MHz
Intel PIII (Katmai, Slot 1, FSB 100) 600MHz
Intel PIIIB (Katmai, Slot 1, FSB 133) 600MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, Slot 1, FSB 100) 800MHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, Slot 1, FSB 133) 800MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 800MHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 133) 800MHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 133) 933MHz


MS-6178 S370Mobo:

Intel Celeron A (FPGA 370) 533MHz
Intel Celeron II (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 66) 700MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 850MHz
VIA VIA Cyrix III(100MHz) 550MHz


MS-6178E S370 Mobo:

Intel Celeron II (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 900MHz
Intel Celeron II (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 1.1GHz
Intel PIIIEB (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 133) 1000MHz
Intel PIII(Coppermine D-Step, FCPGA2, FSB 133) 1.13GHz

Note: This Mainboard does not support 0.13um Tualatin CPU.



MS-6182 S370 Mobo:

Intel PII 450MHz
Intel Celeron A (FPGA 370) 500MHz
Intel PIIIE (Coppermine, FCPGA, FSB 100) 800MHz

Cheers,

Nick

Damn, I must be bored!!

ChristianR

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hi - thanks I tried looking on the website, but as you noticed, wasnt very helpful at all!

Model no is : MS-6178 , serial: 0010046100400
has an Intel Whitney 82810 rev 3 (from bios wizard) on the mb, says: FW82801AA
and at the monent is a piii 700mhz.

So from what you have managed to find (thanks again btw) it must be a: MS-6178 S370Mobo.

So max is a piii 850mhz - not really worth upgrading then is it?

Mr Footlong

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If it is the non 'e' revision, then I wouldn't bother. Even if it was the 'e' revision, I would think twice...

Cheers,

Nick

ChristianR

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nick - it doesnt say E after it, so I am assuming it isn't!

ChristianR

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nick - don't suppose you know if I can overclock it do you?

Mr Footlong

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Not really on that board, at least majorly anyway. Your cpu runs at 7x100 and is multiplier locked. FSB overclocking is the only option.

As you probably know, when you do this, you overclock all other peripherals in your system. The PCI bus runs at 1/3 of your cpu bus and your AGP runs at 2/3 of your CPU bus. Add to that the USB at 48mhz and you can see how easily a product can fail at higher bus speeds. It looks like your cpu setup is BIOS-based, but by removing a jumper, you can enable fsb overclocking. I have the following link, but there seem like there were a fair few revisions of this board. download and read the following:

http://www.msi.com.tw/php/upload/manual_files/6178-101.exe

read file 2, where it shows the jumper in question. Be aware of the extra heat that will be produced if you do overclock, you may only be running a generic rig which doesn't really have overclocking in mind. I probably wouldn't up that cpu to more than 105mhz without altering cooling etc.

It may well not be worth the risk, as the performance increase will be neglegable at those speeds.

Hope this helps,

Nick

ChristianR

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thanks - not sure if I am going to bother really.

ChristianR

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downloaded that file, removed the jumper - looked in the bios no options - tried finding the latest bios for mine, as it is only on 1.2! found later versions, however they do not work - since you have been so good locating the other info, care to have a look? I went to http://www.msi.com.tw/support/bios/more.php, clicked on MS-6178, which goes to http://www.msi.com.tw/support/bios/b...?model=MS-6178

machine is made by tiny.

ChristianR

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bah - the only bios versions they have is for Award® BIOS, not AMI® BIOS.