Bringing red paint back to life ...
11 April 2007, 09:49 AM
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Bringing red paint back to life ...
Hi,
Well, first time I've posted in this section so take it easy ....
The wifes car (97 Astra in RED) is looking a hit of a state. I'd always said I wouldn't get another red car after a previous red cavalier deteriorated very badly on the paint front but this was from a friend at a very good price. beggers can't be choosers etc ...
Anyway, the red is starting to fade fairly badly and now with the nice weather I'd like to bring it back to something that looks fairly clean ... not absolutely pristine but at least so it looks like it's been washed sometime in the past 5 years ...
I've used the polish/colour restorer before by hand and it produces a good effect from a distance but closer you can see swirls etc where my elbow grease runs out.
So, 2 questions. 1) best polish etc to bring back a shine to oxisdised red paintwork and 2) where can I get a drill attachment for the mechanical polishing?
I've looked at the Polished Bliss web site but don't want to get a specific polishing machine ..... Do any of their parts fit a normal drill?
Thanks in advance
Dave
Well, first time I've posted in this section so take it easy ....
The wifes car (97 Astra in RED) is looking a hit of a state. I'd always said I wouldn't get another red car after a previous red cavalier deteriorated very badly on the paint front but this was from a friend at a very good price. beggers can't be choosers etc ...
Anyway, the red is starting to fade fairly badly and now with the nice weather I'd like to bring it back to something that looks fairly clean ... not absolutely pristine but at least so it looks like it's been washed sometime in the past 5 years ...
I've used the polish/colour restorer before by hand and it produces a good effect from a distance but closer you can see swirls etc where my elbow grease runs out.
So, 2 questions. 1) best polish etc to bring back a shine to oxisdised red paintwork and 2) where can I get a drill attachment for the mechanical polishing?
I've looked at the Polished Bliss web site but don't want to get a specific polishing machine ..... Do any of their parts fit a normal drill?
Thanks in advance
Dave
12 April 2007, 01:34 PM
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Holy moly, I would not advise a drill - the speed and friction would be greater than even on the rotary polishers we use, and thus there is a good chance of burning the paint. Have you not got anything with a random orbital action? It is always better to use something with less friction - dual action sanders can often be used, and although I still don't advocate this approach, it's a much safer bet that a drill! Regarding products, if whatever tool you end up using has a velcro backing plate then our pads will fit. Product wise, I would look at either Menzerna RD3.02 or 106FF to correct the swirls and lift the oxidation, using light cut pads (3.02 for severe defects, 106FF for moderate defects). Afterwards, I would recommend the Jeffs Werkstatt Carnauba Kit to protect and seal the paint (and thus prevent thr problem from coming back). The kit comes with all of the necessary products and pads/towels, and delivers very good results on solid red. Here's one we did earlier with these products...
12 April 2007, 04:25 PM
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vauxhall red paint is a bit sketchy at the best of times
i remember around 10 years back my brother bought a little nova and we spent the day with the cutting compound making it all nice again.
we thought we had done a top job, until he offered up his new colour coded freshly painted bodykit
i do know of a mate who simply sanded his faded red car down, then give it a coat of lacquer with surprisingly good results
i remember around 10 years back my brother bought a little nova and we spent the day with the cutting compound making it all nice again.
we thought we had done a top job, until he offered up his new colour coded freshly painted bodykit
i do know of a mate who simply sanded his faded red car down, then give it a coat of lacquer with surprisingly good results
12 April 2007, 10:30 PM
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Have you not got anything with a random orbital action? It is always better to use something with less friction - dual action sanders can often be used, and although I still don't advocate this approach, it's a much safer bet that a drill! Regarding products, if whatever tool you end up using has a velcro backing plate then our pads will fit. Product wise, I would look at either Menzerna RD3.02 or 106FF to correct the swirls and lift the oxidation, using light cut pads (3.02 for severe defects, 106FF for moderate defects). Afterwards, I would recommend the Jeffs Werkstatt Carnauba Kit to protect and seal the paint (and thus prevent thr problem from coming back). The kit comes with all of the necessary products and pads/towels, and delivers very good results on solid red. Here's one we did earlier with these products...
Is the Menzerna not too harsh for a poor old Astra? The blurb says it was designed for new, harder coatings?
As for the pads - you mean like the Meguiars 6.5" Soft Buff Pads (cutting version)?
Cheers
Dave
17 April 2007, 09:18 PM
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No, by PC these newer Menzerna polishes are perfectly safe for standard clear coats - as I said above though, stick to 106FF for moderate to minor swirls, and only drop down to RD3.02 if needs be. Best pads are LK CCS 6.5" Polishing Pad with 106FF, and LK CCS 6.5" Light Cut Pad with RD3.02.
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