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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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has anyone had experience of fitting a FMIC pace intercooler to MY96?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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Hi there
Speak to teknopete, he's fitted one to his car.
Normally found lurking in the Scotland forum..........
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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I'm about to find out first hand as I'm fitting one to my 95WRX next weekend. I will probably take some pictures of the action and post them.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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does anyone know if you have to fit the Pace radiator with the fmic,or can I keep the standard one? the price I have seen is for a fmic/rad kit.

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 04:50 PM
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Because the Pace sits further back from the bumper than other FMICs you need to replace the original Rad, hence the price including a new Pace one
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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Anybody know what type of anti-freeze and how much of it I need to use when filling the new pace radiator and water system ?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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cheers.

always looking at the worst scenario me ,so if the rad etc move back,this will move them closer to the timing belt cover.how much clearance is there?,if it's very close a small shunt,only pushing the front panel back an inch,giving light cosmetic damage,could burst the cover and break the timing belt .you can tell I do not rush into anything .
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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Small shunt that manages to force the front subframe forward? I'd really hate to be around if you plan a big off!
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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You might also argue that as the pace intercooler lives inside the subframe, where the standard subaru cooling rads live, and isn't sticking out in the bumper, where most FMIC's live, that the pace setup is less likely to be damaged by "small shunts" and or parking incidents... such as an idiot backing their towhook into your intercooler.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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I saw a scoob written off once for a broken headlight and a dented wing.the battery must have moved accross and caught the timing belt cover and made a small hole in it, the timing belt must have then swallowed the 5p size bit of plastic,jumped and bent 4 valves (iirc)on the left head ,my m8 bought it at an auction thinking it was a bargain until he tried to start it,luckily he is a mechanic.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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true Moray,had not thought of that.perhaps I need a bull bar lol .

I always spend too much time with the "what ifs"

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Mucher keep us posted m8

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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We have fitted a Pace kit to a '99.

Probably a similar set up except perhaps the induction position (?)

After we struggled with ours (all ok once you know) we e-mailed Pace with a few constructive comments and asked them to produce a set of (even limited) instructions for all the poor buggers that were going to fit them and have a bit of a guessing game.

Feedback from Pace was good, they said they would produce a set next time they had a scoob in.

If we can be of any help to any of you lot who are about to enter the realms of "Frontmountism" let us know.

When we say we, we mean Mole and his Dad.

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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How long did it take to fit ?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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mole,

any chance of you posting a few pictures and commenting on lag with the standard turbo,here or on john banks track thread?

edit to ask:do the pipes run under the car at any point?

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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It took me and Mole 2 days without instructions, we took the whole front of the car off!!!

Didn't need to do that (found out later) but at least we could clean behind the bumper

Anyroad, it all became clear once we started the job.

Cheers, Moles Dad.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Would you say it's easier doing the job with the bumper off or on ?

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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T-uk,

Will answer questions and upload pictures tomorrow evening, had enough of this poxy computer.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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It can be done in (we do it in), 4 hours or less, you don't need to remove the bumper.

The reason the kit has a radiator as part of the kit is both to increase the efficiency over the OEM radiator (it sees less and hotter air due to the placement of the FMIC), and to accomodate the pipes coming over the top of the shorter radiator, hence reducing the pipe lengths and not having to run pipes underneath the car.

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Mike fitted mine to my MY94 WRX, and you do need to refabricate the inlet pipes/induction kit mounting. You won't get it in with a standard airbox! Some of the pipework needed some slight tweaking to get it to go past the oil filler neck etc. There is no appreciable increase in lag. It is very tight on the cam covers (especially on the drivers side, only about 5 - 10 mm clearance).
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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any pics on the install.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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T-uk, I was a bit spoilt before we fitted the FMIC as I had a Scoobysport de-cat downpipe for about 3 weeks.

This, coupled with the PPP gave reeeaaallly quick "spool up" and terrific mid range punch.

After fitting the FMIC (and poncing about with boost) the lag was only slight, in fact the car still feels quite torquey even when not in pos boost.

The pipe runs are kept as short as possible, in fact the kit is designed with this in mind, hence the "over the top" route and not under.

Now that we have "fine tuned" the HKS boost controller and fitted the HKS super seq dump valve things feel really good.

Some people reckon its a waste with the standard turbo, well, I am enjoying every minute of my waste of money!!! (285bhp 266lb).

Hope the pic uplink downlink gismo fing works ..........








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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 09:33 AM
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very nice
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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Rayman, I'll take some piccies this afternoon and post them up.
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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I'd be very interested in those too Stuart.

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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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cheers stuart top man.
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Here you go:




See more here:

http://www.skcl.demon.co.uk/pacefmic/

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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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Guys,

Regarding induction kits and FMIC's, do you know if the PACE (for example) will fit nicely with an APC Cool Air system? (I guess so, just not 100% sure).

ta,
Matt.

p.s. Mike, how much do you charge for the PACE fully fitted?
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Stuart,

Is that a Blitz induction kit on there ??

If it is did Pace supply the extension pipework to get the air filter close to the head light ?

Did you have to lose the turbo air cooler metalwork that is fed from the left hand side of the bonnet scoop ?

What how much and what type of anti-freeze did you use to re-fill the water coolant system ?

Thanks in advance

Giles


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