It happened around 3pm on golden hillock rd around birmingham. I'm still shook up and still shaking...maybe I'm a wussy . Luckily it wasnt my car it was my bosses priced possesion that he loves very much .

I was on a single carriage road. Turning left into an industrial estate. I indicated well before 200-300 yards. As I went for the turn I went a little wide and turned.....just in flash a mercedes s-class went straight into me (still feeling sick about it) Picture below will show. The obvious question is who's fault? Mind because I went a little wide? I shouldnt think so. Anyways the guy was being a total TIT!

I jumped out while the landy was still start and showed him the indicator was still ticking!!!! He wont admit any liability so this will get dirty eventually.

Good news is: Its all on cctv...and I have 3witnesses

But was I still wrong...my fault? I feel sick and guilty that it was my bosses car.

To give you an idea how hard the car hit.....I had a load of autoglym stuff and cloths......they were found 50yrds down the road

All I did was turn into my mates place to wash the car....and BANG. I still cant get believe it happened.

What do you think about the damage on the landy? is it a write off? I hope not.

Someone cheer me up.

 

first of all mate, your ok, thats what matters ok. its a car, regardless of ownership/value etc.

im just trying to fathom out how the collision occured. you turned left and then the merc hit you? this isnt any suspicion, im genuinely trying to picture the accident in my mind as something similar happened to me last april.

having read again, was it a case of as you went wide, the merc undertook you on your passenger side?

 

The Landy hardly looks touched
Can you fire a link to Google earth to show the lay out as your description is difficult to understand without a birds eye view
Glad you're ok. What has the Boss said?

 

Ok think of it this way you were not hurt or worse nor did you plow into anyone, your shook up and you probably owe your boss a beer (unless he's fired you)

End of teh day its a car and can be repaired.

chin up fella it could have been a lot worse

 

If he was behind you and you have independant witnesses (CCTV etc.) I'd have thought it'll be his fault 100%. He shouldn't admit anything at the scene at all as thats what the insurance companies advise, so I wouldn't necessarily read anything too sinister into that.

I had almost the exact same thing happen in February, except I was turning right. Only I didn't have any independant witnesses to support me. Even though matey was behind me and didn't see me turning, he tried to claim I was parked up and pulled out and turned right in front of him.

I'm yet to find out if it'll end up being 100% his fault, or 50/50 due to there being no independant witnesses and it just being my word against his.

 

Unless you were in a right hand lane, and indicating right, he's got no justification for attempting to overtake on the left of you. Classic impatience "accident", and his fault.

 

Calm down dear........

As said nobody was squashed but it does shake you up.

I am assuming that the Merc was behind and I'd have a small wager that his mind was elsewhere and he didn't see you signalling until the last minute when the only option he had was to try and squeeze through the inside.

Looks like the Merc came off worse.

UK 1 - Germany 0


PS. Since this is a public forum you may wish to edit your post/s to read "As I swung to turn in" ...........

 

Choc o brian: I basically tried to turn left...took a little wide and the merc just went straight for me. No idea how he managed it. Gum shut.

Brun: The boss is okay...hasnt fired me....but I can tell its hurting him big time...

The chief: cheers mate. He's already consumed enough drink because of this...! lol.

Iwan: I tell you what though this guy was not having any of it.....

Alan Jefferey: nope I was in my lane(left) and turning left.

David lock: I suppose i'm taking it bad...because...been driving since I was 15 no 22 and never had an accident. Oh well it happens...

 

Chin up mate, you're OK that's the main thing.

The first one is always the worst in terms of thinking "what if" etc.

Don't let it get to your confidence as that is when you will start to be dangerous on the road - nervous drivers are bad drivers.

 

A bit of grant turismo should sort that tonight lol!

 

Glad your ok rear and collision, his fault

Tony

 

Still can't picture this. Where was the merc coming from? behind(i.e. undertaking)? or from somewhere else?

 

wish i had pictures of my crash squashed a fiesta between and under a artic was alot smaller then when it had just left show room they had no seatbelts on and dun a emergency stop for no reason was your boss pissed withh you ??

 

He was simply following me like a regular car. I turned left...he didnt bother to look and went straight into me. Then blamed the whole plot on me

 

That looks like a nice landy, i take it your boss knows you've posted pics on here of it, along with it's illegal number plates...LOL!!!

I would guess, that unless the chassis is bent, it'll get fixed, easily.... if the chassis is bent, more than likely a write off....

 

I know what you're going through, many years ago I crashed my Dad's pride and joy, made worse as it was my fault and he was on holiday. You've got the worst bit out of the way - telling your boss.

Sounds then like he almost hit you from behind, wasn't paying attention.

Main thing is that you are feeling terrible now but it will only get better. Tomorrow you will wake up and it will seem like a long time ago, especially as nobody was hurt.

Have a whisky, relax and don't worry.

 

Looks like it's the Merc's fault...can I just see the start of the word "SLOW" painted on the road just behind the Landy ??

Shaun

PS the merc driver could claim he was distracted by the illegal number plate

 

On the pictures you've posted it doesnt look like a write off. obviously without seeing the chasis nobody could say either way. We rally landies and they take a hell of a lot of damage before writting it off, just looks like replace the wing, door and skirt. they may well have to replace the rear tub too...

like others have said mate, your fine and thats the main thing. These things happen everyday.

Playing devils advocate, insurance may well turn round and say that because of that plate the policy is null and void.... unlikely but dont be surprised. If they can get out of paying they will !

Hope it all turns out ok for you mate...

RMH

 

My first thought too!

Just a see how it goes. suspect they'll just go 50/50 and take the ewasy route out.

5t.

 

definatly 100% the mercs fault there is u were indicating and he was behind u its his fault i would of called the police about he woudl of soon changed his tune

 

is there not an insurance omnbusman (sp?!) which you can appeal to if you feel hard done by on an insurance claim?

kinda disagree with big-dan because the police probably would have taken exception to the no. plate only and not any injuries or aggression to either party

 

Im assuming you swerved right to the centre of the carriage way to give you better access to the *tight* entrance on the left? ...im guessing that the Merc just saw a flashing indicator & you moving to the right & impatience got the better of him, either way it sounds 100% his fault <especially if you were stationary waiting to access the entrance >

 

Did you get any photographs of the road surface? Skid marks in particular. Although the Merc may not have skidded, when it hit the Landrover that would have skipped sideways a bit, possibly leaving marks on the road to show its exact position. These can always be ignored if not in your favour.

 

At least your ok, that's the main thing.

From what I can gather, you've came down the road and indicated for your turn off. You must know that it's a fairly tight corner and moved out to the right ever so slightly. Mercedes driver has obviously been somewhere else in his little mind and saw you at the last minute. Only thing he could do was undertake you due to you moving to the right slightly...

Car wouldn't be a right off by the looks of the initial photographs. Chassis would need to be bent, boot floor would need to be crushed and your pillars would need to be damaged enough. Theres more as well but thats the basic bodywork that they'll write it off for.

Suprised you didn't get pulled for the Illegal Show Plates to be honest. Someone was on Police Camera Action with them and got fined.
Could be worse though you might not have hit that wall with carpet around it

 

How on earth can the Merc driver claim it was your fault? You slowed down, indicated and turned left yet somehow he managed to run into the side of you. Why was he trying to undertake you on a single carriageway road? Was he on the 'phone and not concentrating?

 

if he was on the phone and not concentrating you'd imagine just rear ender, not the weird front corner, passenger door thats happened here. The merc must have hit pretty hard tho to deform that much, so obviously it did all happen very suddenly. I can't quite work out whats happened here from the description but in the book indicating one way and turning another doesn't look great and the insurer won't like it.

Either the merc has actually mounted the pavement to try and undertake you which looking at the pics would surely lead him into the side of the building? or your going wide was actually crossing onto the other side of the road to then swing into the car park in which instance he's come straight into the side.

You've probably both got it wrong, many of us have done it and it feels awful for a while but no one's hurt so do the paperwork and move on, and probably be a bit more cautious in future.

 

Don't agree, big vehicles and ones that are turning into a tight turning do this sort of thing all the time. It's up to you, travelling behind, to be aware of these situations and act accordingly. As mentioned previously it sounds like the merc driver was not paying attention and saw you turning at the last moment and had no choice but to crash into ya.

 

you could look at the cctv and maybe see if he was on the phone

 

you should be ok mate.

that damage to the merc vs the landy is unreal!!! - serves the **** right!!!

good luck

 

Have to agree with JFRace - a big vehicle does do this all the time, because people expect it. A short wheel base Landie is not a big vehicle - and has a decent enough turning circle to be able to negotiate a turn. The only reason for swinging out is because the turn is tight and you are thus wanting to take the turn at a higher speed than braking more would allow you to do.

I am sure it is the Merc's fault, but would comment that have a bone to pick with people who are seemingly unable to turn left into a junction without swinging out first to take the turn when it is usually not required. How many times have you gone to overtake (perfectly legally) when someone has done this only for them to pull right (and potentially into you) while looking left to make the turn.

Mostly, there is no need to...