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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Having had my STi PPP re-mapped by TSL some while ago, I'm looking at various options for upping the output (would love a torque increase) I now see that they do a "353" package consisting of their pulse extraction exhaust, ceramic coated headers and of course, a re-map. Although I would prefer somewhere nearer 380 and appropriate torque, this would mean turbo and injectors.
Has anyone had the 353 pack? or any opinion as to it's effectiveness?

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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I'm still toying with the PPP to 333 package they do, may wait till the warranty runs out in November and go for it then.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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I'm still toying with the PPP to 333 package they do, may wait till the warranty runs out in November and go for it then.
Cheers
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That's basically what I had done nearly two years ago, but retained the Prodrive exhaust. On Power Engineering rollers I got 340 with 309 lbft It's the torque figure I'd like to hike. I saw no benefits below 3500 but noticable improvements from then on.
Why wait for the warranty? Unless you claim on a problem involving the ECU, it's very doubtful they'll ever know!
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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i have 333 package with chargecooler so 353 expensive addition for little benefit although headers sound nice
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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I had the PPP to 333 conversation done around 6 months or so ago. Have to say I am very pleased with the results, driveability is much better. As JohnD said no difference below 3000rpm but that fantastic difference from then onwards.

On Dyno Demons rollers it made 317.9bhp and 331lbft.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
i have 333 package with chargecooler so 353 expensive addition for little benefit although headers sound nice
martin
Aggree. Add a fatter turbo and injectors and it then becomes interesting. A whole wad of more money though!

Have you got the "pulse extraction" exhaust? If so, what's it like?
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
On Power Engineering rollers I got 340 with 309 lbft
Originally Posted by Anderooo

On Dyno Demons rollers it made 317.9bhp and 331lbft.
Same 333 package but -22bhp and + 22lbft of torque !

Don't you just love rolling roads
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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I think my butt dyno is more accurate.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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i have the pulse extraction system on my 06 sti. I love the sound of it, it pops and bangs on over run. The burble is still in full effect, but there is more menace to it than with my firestorm. Its not cheap though, same with the headers, when you compare bhp to $£$£.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Same 333 package but -22bhp and + 22lbft of torque !

Don't you just love rolling roads
Entertainment on a Saturday for a bunch of blokes, with tea and a bacon butty thrown in!

Andy If you wern't in Scotland and I wasn't in Essex, I'd probably be talking with you!
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Andy If you wern't in Scotland and I wasn't in Essex, I'd probably be talking with you!
JohnD
What a great drive home though.


Why not get some GT Spec headers for cheaper? Or get yours ported/wrapped. £1300 seems like a helluva lot.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davedipster
I think my butt dyno is more accurate.
lol
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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or you could go one step further
see profile
all tsl

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
or you could go one step further
see profile
all tsl

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mmm not bad i suppose budgie
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
mmm not bad i suppose budgie
hi aaron
not bad
you still on for that pint
will see you when im ooop north

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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hi mate yes i'll be up for a free pint, hows it running
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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not bad m8
all fixed up
engine bay looking shiny
winter wheels and tyres on
saving the 888's for brands hatch on feb 22nd
will keep you posted

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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hijack!
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by automodellistagt
hijack!
hi!
and my names not jack

budgie

sorry, just got sidetracked
but my car is the tsl500
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
or you could go one step further
see profile
all tsl

budgie
Not exactly ONE step further, is it!
Is that a track day at Brands on 22 Feb? As it's only half hour away and half term, I may pop down for a bit of entertainment!
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PS Who did TSL use for the mapping, do they still use Richard Bulmer?

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
or you could go one step further
see profile
all tsl

budgie


Was that the 530bhp monster for sale recently? I was super keen by it.

Lurvely steering wheel.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
hi!
and my names not jack

budgie

sorry, just got sidetracked
but my car is the tsl500
spec sounds lovely but being tsl i am sure it cost you plenty so dont feel that guilty-honest
martin

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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john
depends how long your legs are
yes it is
and not sure

gaz
yes it is
and the wheel is fab

martin
i bought it as is so didnt get hit to hard

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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One super package you have there. I must admit i was very tempted myself.

Is it purely a track/race car, or can you go to asda with the kids?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
One super package you have there. I must admit i was very tempted myself.

Is it purely a track/race car, or can you go to asda with the kids?
the car can be used everyday but i choose not to
i use a van for work and the wife has her own car
other than that i use it whenever possible
need to be aware of speed bumps
and the clutch can be a little heavy
but the anti lag is a must in the local town centre
and i wouldn't go to asda with the kids in anything

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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PS Who did TSL use for the mapping, do they still use Richard Bulmer?[/QUOTE]

although not 100%, paul from zen performance mapped it last time i saw it
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
the car can be used everyday but i choose not to
i use a van for work and the wife has her own car
other than that i use it whenever possible
need to be aware of speed bumps
and the clutch can be a little heavy
but the anti lag is a must in the local town centre
and i wouldn't go to asda with the kids in anything

budgie
Good to know. It lOOks and reads to be an awesome car. Whilst driving mine home from work, which is a rarity, i kept thinking what that blue beast would be like.

If you get bored with it, i'm still saving.
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