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Old 17 November 2007, 12:37 PM
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Just saw this vid on live leak and it just makes my blood run cold.Even over and above the moral issues ,what about safety? and they wonder how these school shootings occur.

LiveLeak.com - The Right To Bear Arms - US

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Old 17 November 2007, 07:44 PM
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It sounds as if he is with family as you can hear his dad ,but you can also hear a younger girl giggling and screaming . Also at one point he virtual points the barrel towards himself although the father shouts a warning to him.

I just feel the kid is rather young to be firing a gun of this calibre and power especially with distractions in the background.
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I can see what you are saying. There has to be a point where you teach kids about guns if you are going to have them in your family. I know my friends dad did not. He just "locked them up". Kept them out of the way thinking that was the safest thing to do. Then one day I went around to my mates and found myself looking down the wrong end of his semi auto twelve bore **** me I wish his dad had taught him about gun safety.

Clearly there is a point when it is too early, but also there is the point where it is too damn late. Man I needed new trousers.
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I think the child in the video didn't have the strength to use the weapon he was using, so shouldn't really be using it until he was a bit older/stronger; and as mentioned, the over-excited child in the background is certainly a distraction that isn't needed when instructing someone how to shoot for possibly the first time, but holding a camera when your supposed to be conducting safety supervision isn't ideal either.

As for teaching a child to shoot in general though - I have no problem with it. From a moral perspective, I think it is a little hypocritical to allow a child to play realistic console games shooting people up all over the place, and then scream in moral indignation when a child is taught to target shoot with an actual firearm. (Not that I'm suggesting thats what Ted was doing).
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Old 17 November 2007, 10:47 PM
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or bear paws.
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Seriously though - I was taught how to use a shotgun and a rifle when I was 6 (thats us country bumpkins for you.) Never felt the urge to go postal regardless
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Its a good idea to teach your children how to behave safely in all aspects of life but I can't help feeling that is a bit early for a lad of his age to be into real guns.

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Originally Posted by fast bloke
I was taught how to use a shotgun and a rifle when I was 6 (thats us Irish for you.)
Old 19 November 2007, 03:38 PM
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But at least they had the good sense to keep us away from the diesel and green sward for an extra couple of years
Old 19 November 2007, 03:57 PM
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Been shooting since I was about 6 also. I will agree though that the kid in the vid is shooting above his calibre.
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The right to bear arms. It's marginally less ludicrous than the right to arm bears I suppose.
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Surprised the slide didnt hit him in the face with the recoil. Kid that age shouldn't really be shooting more than a .22
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Agree, I started on .22 RF, ok so I had a shot with a .44 and .38 etc when I was a nipper but always one round at a time, no accidents that way.

Started up onto .38 when I was about 12, then everything else upto .50
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AE or BMG ?
Old 21 November 2007, 01:36 PM
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no problem as with previous if you teach them early it isnt a must have item or a toy
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AE sadly.
Old 21 November 2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Trucker Ted
Just saw this vid on live leak and it just makes my blood run cold.Even over and above the moral issues ,what about safety? and they wonder how these school shootings occur.

LiveLeak.com - The Right To Bear Arms - US

sorry if a sial.
If I lived in America, I'd have the biggest fcukoff gun I could get.

I'd have a Desert Eagle too. For close range stuff.

Currently have a Shotgun and hoping to get a .22 Rifle next year. Just in negotiations with a Farmer who has shooting rights, so I can apply for a Fire Arms license.

Then it's watch out Bunny, I'm coming for you.
Old 21 November 2007, 09:08 PM
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if you want a gun, you should immediately be banned from having one. for the very reason that you want one.

why do people feel so inferior they need a big dog or a gun?
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God did not make all men equal - Samuel Colt did !
Old 21 November 2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
if you want a gun, you should immediately be banned from having one. for the very reason that you want one.

why do people feel so inferior they need a big dog or a gun?
I couldn't agree more!

No good at all can come from owning guns, and even less when mixing guns with children.
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