The Oh So Familiar Upgrade Bug…….
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The Oh So Familiar Upgrade Bug…….
The story so far….
Bought 2004 WRX new. Loved it.
Added PPP. Wow, this is fabulous, must have more of same but brakes are going to kill me.
Bought 2005 STi new with PPP. This is better than sex, must have more of same. (Is there any pills or ointment that stops whatever bug I’ve got?)
End result is in a couple of month’s time I’ll be even poorer after some engine work at RCMS. Quandary is do I save money and use the existing ECU or do I invest in a Motec ECU so I have a complete PPP to sell?
What is a complete 2000 mile PPP worth for a 2005 STi?
Are 2005 STi 500cc injectors worth anything?
Is a stock 2005 STi turbo worth anything?
Any comments welcome, apart from “your barking mad, find better sex”
Henry
Bought 2004 WRX new. Loved it.
Added PPP. Wow, this is fabulous, must have more of same but brakes are going to kill me.
Bought 2005 STi new with PPP. This is better than sex, must have more of same. (Is there any pills or ointment that stops whatever bug I’ve got?)
End result is in a couple of month’s time I’ll be even poorer after some engine work at RCMS. Quandary is do I save money and use the existing ECU or do I invest in a Motec ECU so I have a complete PPP to sell?
What is a complete 2000 mile PPP worth for a 2005 STi?
Are 2005 STi 500cc injectors worth anything?
Is a stock 2005 STi turbo worth anything?
Any comments welcome, apart from “your barking mad, find better sex”
Henry
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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis
This is better than sex, must have more of same. (Is there any pills or ointment that stops whatever bug I’ve got?)
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I don't think you can just sell a PPP'd ECU to someone. As there car won't reconise it. So I believe, an ECU like a key has a code that the car recognises, just plugging in another ECU won't work, that's why your ECU has to be sent to Prodrive to be updated, rafter than replacing the ECU.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Tried that years ago, it had no effect, do think that should tell me something 
Originally Posted by Dick Cheese
Nothing short of a full lobotamy will help you I'm afraid.
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A very good point and I'm sure you are correct. Plan A may be sinking without a trace...
Originally Posted by stilover
I don't think you can just sell a PPP'd ECU to someone. As there car won't reconise it. So I believe, an ECU like a key has a code that the car recognises, just plugging in another ECU won't work, that's why your ECU has to be sent to Prodrive to be updated, rafter than replacing the ECU.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
turbo £300
Injectors - £200
and you could ask more
what are RCM doing, they are very good
think your old ECU will work in any 05 car but will need to get the key code changed - dont think its worth swapping my self when you think how many cars are running 400bhp plus on std ecu. If I was after launch controll etc for competition use I might say otherwise
Injectors - £200
and you could ask more
what are RCM doing, they are very good
think your old ECU will work in any 05 car but will need to get the key code changed - dont think its worth swapping my self when you think how many cars are running 400bhp plus on std ecu. If I was after launch controll etc for competition use I might say otherwise
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Thanks, some idea of values is handy.
Basic plan is Garrett GT35 turbo + 3” full exhaust + SS Header + 550-600cc injectors + Some induction changes + Remap. Things may change and no doubt other bits will be added.
Basic plan is Garrett GT35 turbo + 3” full exhaust + SS Header + 550-600cc injectors + Some induction changes + Remap. Things may change and no doubt other bits will be added.
Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
turbo £300
Injectors - £200
and you could ask more
what are RCM doing, they are very good
think your old ECU will work in any 05 car but will need to get the key code changed - dont think its worth swapping my self when you think how many cars are running 400bhp plus on std ecu. If I was after launch controll etc for competition use I might say otherwise
Injectors - £200
and you could ask more
what are RCM doing, they are very good
think your old ECU will work in any 05 car but will need to get the key code changed - dont think its worth swapping my self when you think how many cars are running 400bhp plus on std ecu. If I was after launch controll etc for competition use I might say otherwise
Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis
Thanks, some idea of values is handy.
Basic plan is Garrett GT35 turbo + 3” full exhaust + SS Header + 550-600cc injectors + Some induction changes + Remap. Things may change and no doubt other bits will be added.
Basic plan is Garrett GT35 turbo + 3” full exhaust + SS Header + 550-600cc injectors + Some induction changes + Remap. Things may change and no doubt other bits will be added.
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Originally Posted by stilover
I don't think you can just sell a PPP'd ECU to someone. As there car won't reconise it. So I believe, an ECU like a key has a code that the car recognises, just plugging in another ECU won't work, that's why your ECU has to be sent to Prodrive to be updated, rafter than replacing the ECU.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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olly showed me a dyno the car was 05 sti with 361bhp only had turbo back 3" PIPE induction kit and a remap
thay are doing mine soon i am going for the headers for that bit more then next year think turbo and other bits
thay are doing mine soon i am going for the headers for that bit more then next year think turbo and other bits
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Sweet, that make complete sense. If the complete PPP package is saleable for sensible money I might go with the Motec ECU. That way I’m covered if things get even more out of hand
Originally Posted by davedipster
Only the keys will need to be re-programmed, easy.
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Sounds like you have the same bug as me, after all it's quite obvious to me that 400+bhp is required to move one person at 60mph 
Originally Posted by NeilP1
olly showed me a dyno the car was 05 sti with 361bhp only had turbo back 3" PIPE induction kit and a remap
thay are doing mine soon i am going for the headers for that bit more then next year think turbo and other bits
thay are doing mine soon i am going for the headers for that bit more then next year think turbo and other bits
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I have just thrown £11,000 under my bonnet, my P1 has got 370 bhp from RCM.But with engine re-build end of the year i have all the bits for 450BHP already on the car.Depends how far you want to go.I have Motec,GT35 turbo and a load of other bits.It is worth getting it done.
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I run mine on motec with the gt35 seems to run very well but just for the 2 your looking at over £4k.
Martin the gt35 is only rated at 400-420 bhp if your looking at 450 you will need the gt30.
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Martin the gt35 is only rated at 400-420 bhp if your looking at 450 you will need the gt30.
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