must be new,i wont cut the bumper,so if its fm it must not need any cutting
i do like the look of the APS tm though . although id probably need a scoop off an sti8 to feed more air into it.

for my00 uk

any other ides / suggestions .

cheers in advance
daz

 

APS top mount appears to give very good results. Get the one designed for the classic, you might not need an STi scoop, but more air on it has to help. A lot of people also seem to rate the MRT one, although I think less have used it, and there's also the likes of the hyperflow. Two things you're really after - good surface area for cooling, minimal pressure drop of charge over the cooler; if you can get data on both of those features, pick one on statistics

Scoobysport are threatening a new fancy TMIC, but not available yet.

 

If my memory serves me right both MRT and APS TMICs are Hyperflow made so expect similar gains!

 

I have the MRT TMIC on my UK 97 and I'm very pleased with it.

I run a TD05 turbo up to 1.5 bar and never see more than one green on the knocklink, so it does it's job.

APS is also a superb bit of kit, very well constructed but the MRT one is prettier if you are into underbonnet looks.

Scoop wise I have the MRT 52mm scoop which is 10mm higher than the standard one with no vertical slats in to obstruct flow. It allows 20% greater airflow, but doesn't look out of place, which I think the 03STi style do on a classic.

Rich

 

Theres only one choice for a classic, it's the largest frontmount IC & radiator thats possible to fit on a classic. Both units fit where the current radiator sits. No bumper Cutting required, IC is fed from top and outlet is at the top also so easy to install. Also comes with slimline fans.

 

Lateral Performance?

 

I have an AVOTurbo TMIC (just the same as the Hyperflow/ MRT) from JWRacing and STi8 scoop:

 

Thats the one and we have one in stock

 

...Although you'll need to junk your Air-Con IIRC ?

 

Only if you turn your manifold round to put the entry at the front do you need to change your aircon. if you route the intercooler pipes round the side like conventional FMIC's then the aircon can stay

 

cheers for all the replies lads . . .
ive been searching the threads for a while now but was still undecided
so,i thought id start a new 1 , lol . . .
think its gonna have to be a top mount,APS or avo,great pics phil m8 ;-)

least ive narrowed it down to the 2 now,lol.

 

is there any power limit on the aftermarket TMIC's? just wondering as i have an aps TMIC it neaver seems to get hot. its very well made no bent fins, a said above not the prittiest but its functional
mike

 

Power limit of TMIC - Ask AndyF! IIRC he has one (admittedly a somewhat special one), and is running mid 10s at 136mph for the quarter mile

 

yea though his is aded and abeted with a couple of fans

 

Daz.... i'm with Rich as far as the top mounts go. Having seen his MRT first hand (which is basically the AVO) i've got to say it does look a quality piece of kit. I'd go for this above the APS.... and if you give Rich a call i'm sure he'll get a good price on one for you too.

Tony.

 

The AVO is exactly the same as the MRT item as they are made by the same manufacturer. The big difference is I paid 550 +vat for the Avo from JWRacing. The cheapest I have seen the MRT for in the UK is 800+vat.

 

Knew they were the same, didn't know there was such a price difference tho . Have you managed to get some charge temps yet from the new intercooler?? Does look very nice

Tony.

 

i got a custom made TMIC and it ran my td05 turbo at 1.6bar with no more than a green flicker and my td05/06 similar

 

How much for intercooler with pipes etc. to suit a MY98 UK with aircon ?

How many hours of labour to install ?

 

aircon rad will be in the way on a 98 iirc.

 

OK, OK, I'll get myself to Maplins for some equipment to measure the charge temps . I have been off work since just before New Year so have had no excuse really.....back to the grindstone in 12 days

 

Conrad - you're all show and no go mate Size isn't everything remember

 

Andy, how hot to touch was your tmic after the quartermile runs.

didnt mark burn his hand on it?

I will admit, it isn't all about size but I can't deny the performance I have seen so far from the lateral fmic.

 

No idea Adam, I personally can't run at 136 mph to get out and feel it and by the time the car had slowed down it would have been stone cold having had all that air blasting through it with zero boost.

I don't doubt the quality of the Lateral kit but what performance have you seen exactly ?
I mean real road/track performance such as professionally timed acceleration runs, not just the questionable numbers from a rolling road/dyno which doesn't take account of lag and pressurisation time for example.

Andy

 

nobody suggested a STi8 i/c yet?

Bob

 

andy.. glad to see your back to your old self..

Ps..get some new brakes then..

David

 

I like the look of the "pace" front mounted intercooler, it costs just over a grand, no bumper mods and includes a new radiator

 

I like the look too.. shame performance of it is similar to a hand drier... if our engines liked warm air and hot water then id buy one tomorrow.

 

Just like to add a touch of reality Too many new things are touted as being the best thing since sliced bread without having had a great deal of testing. I'm not saying don't go front mount, just that I'm not convinced they have any real advantage over a well designed top mount, especially considering the extra work/cost involved.

Andy

 

Hmmm well i would agree but the early cars have just about no other choice because of the position of the inlet manifold. The AVO TMIC looks ok but i bet my HKS FMIC has far lower inlet temps and therefore will be worth it when the summer comes along (in Scotland....LOL)

Stuart