Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

JDM STI - a no-brainer?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:59 PM
  #1  
AndyC_772's Avatar
AndyC_772
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,096
Likes: 0
From: Swilling coffee at my lab bench
Lightbulb JDM STI - a no-brainer?

I'm looking at trading up to a new (or newish) STI and am having fun trying to work out which one to go for. Options I'm considering are:

- Type UK with PPP. Very nice, full dealer backup, but on the test drive it didn't feel appreciably quicker than my MY00/PPP. Expensive new, but there are a good few slightly used ones around at a substantial saving.

- WR1. Some still available, very good reviews, but hugely expensive.

- JDM STI. You get over 300bhp (with Litchfields' UK fuel remap), DCCD-A and quick steering, so that's the WR1 looking a bit less special already. You also get xenon lights, climate control, twin scroll turbo and an updated interior, and all for less than the Type UK PPP car.

So, what's the catch with the JDM car? Any horror stories about insurance, parts, servicing or depreciation?
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:13 PM
  #2  
Up_North's Avatar
Up_North
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Default

Andy,

I picked new one up today!!!! 250 miles later and I'm loving it. Haven't driven a current shape UK car so can't compare. Got a lot of good avice from Nathan L on here - so have a word with him if you want some more info. I dare say the gap between the JDM and WR1 is not massive - one of the main differences I believe is the twin scroll turbo. Also not sure if WR1 has quick steering rack. JDM comes with RE070 tyres as standard - they're very hard - same as Spec C. Changing mine to PFF7 18" with Goodyeard GSD3's on Tuesday.

Few extra goodies - rear wash wipe, auto water spray (might be standard on UK cars now?), foldy mirrors, an extra oddment tray next to cup holder, variable illumination of display.

If you want DCCD-A then it has to be JDM or WR1.

Biggest issues is of course warranty - no independent ca ever offer anything as cast iron (?) as Subaru official dealer - but loads of specialists.

Already been in touch with Powerstation about Type 25 suspension set up....I feel Cheltenham calling!

Ian
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:19 PM
  #3  
Scott.T's Avatar
Scott.T
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,181
Likes: 1
From: East Sussex
Default

NathanL's is supposed to be rather imprezive...especially with the remap and equal length headers he's had done.
Hopefully he'll give me a run out in it at the next meet

Piccies of it can be seen at www.eastsussexscoobies.co.uk
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:58 PM
  #4  
Nathan L's Avatar
Nathan L
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,502
Likes: 0
Default

Did someone say JDM STi

Scott, I'm off for 2 weeks at the moment so if you're passing drop me a mail or text and I'll take you out for a spin no probs. Stopped the other day as it was too busy and the oil was brand new Castrol RS, so didn't want to over cook it.

Equal length tubular headers are now O.E on the twin scroll car

Ian, you picked you car up today? Fantastic. Glad the advice was useful.

Andy. If you're considering the JDM do it. You will not regret it. I certainly haven't.

Insurance was £70.00 more per year for me over a UK STi PPP. Servicing at an independent is no more expensive than a UK car as most of the parts are generic across the range. Depreciation is no worse than UK cars IMHO. In fact the JDM car is rarer so may ultimately hold it's value slightly better.

Nathan..
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 10:55 AM
  #5  
mrklaw's Avatar
mrklaw
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
Default

whats the retail price of one of these in Japan?
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 12:08 PM
  #6  
megabusa's Avatar
megabusa
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,503
Likes: 0
Default

approx £17000
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 07:17 AM
  #7  
Old_Fart's Avatar
Old_Fart
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,717
Likes: 0
Default

It's not precisely a no brainer though. Firstly there is the warranty...Litchfield is a great guy, granted, but I find far more piece of mind having an International Motors backed warranty than any aftermarket affair. Secondly I can get a UK scoob serviced easily wherever I am in the country, that kind of dealer network is pretty handy, specialists are around of course, but nowhere near as many..and do they have courtesy cars or a pick up and drop off service? Lastly comes resale/part exchange..if you want/need to change the car what happens. I seriously doubt many franchised car dealers would show much interest in a JDM STI shown in p/x.
Personally I think the JDM cars are a more convincing alternative than ever these days, but I can understand why some people would only consider a UK car when spending £25kplus.
Rgds
C
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 07:34 AM
  #8  
AndyC_772's Avatar
AndyC_772
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,096
Likes: 0
From: Swilling coffee at my lab bench
Default

Well, OK - maybe 'no brainer' is a bit strong - but I do think the JDM car makes a good case for itself. Servicing is once a year at Powerstation with an interim oil change which can be done at any garage, so that's OK.

Warranty is a different issue, of course - I don't relish the prospect of having to take the car to Cheltenham every time it needs work. I can only draw on the experience of my last car here - nothing significant went wrong for the first four years apart from an interior light switch and a few bulbs. Then, at four years old, the engine spun a bearing and had to be replaced. I'm not sure what the moral of that story is, but 'official main dealer' peace of mind doesn't carry much weight with me any more
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 08:50 AM
  #9  
SPEN555's Avatar
SPEN555
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,828
Likes: 0
From: West Yorkshire
Smile

Sit behind the WR1 and have a look at the dash, then consider that this is a £30k car. (looks like it's from a bottom of the range car vs JDM!)

Then sit behind a JDM STi GL and consider it costs £26.5k. The saving alone will cover any warranty issues for the future should you be so unlucky to have an issue.

I have had mine a full year now . I have the GL with milltek exhaust and re-map.

Damian.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 12:41 PM
  #10  
AndyC_772's Avatar
AndyC_772
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,096
Likes: 0
From: Swilling coffee at my lab bench
Default

What's the difference, then? I know that if I order a new car now I'll get the 2005 model with the updated interior, but presumably your car is the same MY as the WR1 - right?
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 12:59 PM
  #11  
Up_North's Avatar
Up_North
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Default

Andy,

Yeah I'm curious as to the difference also. I just took delivery of a JDM and as far as I'm aware the interior is identical except for the foldy mirror button, different/no hi-fi and the slidey out thing next to the cup holder below the centre air vents, stalks are other way round, and the instruments has 5 stage illumination (think its only 2 on UK cars)

Ian
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 01:11 PM
  #12  
WR-one's Avatar
WR-one
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Default

The JDM 05 has: the wheelarch flares; 8" wheels; different rear bumper; a new spec front diff; new 3 spoke steering wheel; new dash; full air con; upholstered arm rests; underbody protection; new suspension tweaks (the spec c used to be different to the GL, now I think both are as the spec c); tinted front lights (these may be US model only though); new colours inc the new met grey; increased torque over the 04;.....think thats about it..
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Gooch89
General Technical
11
Dec 30, 2015 03:31 PM
Alex182
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
1
Sep 9, 2015 09:32 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:55 PM.