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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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After test driving a FQ300 this morning I came away very dissapointed with the grunt of the engine, I have booked a test drive with a MR340 in a couple of weeks but I really want to know what a Type 25 is like...is it better than a Spec C or MR340.....are there any owners of a Type 25 on here. I have 440 bhp RS4 at the moment so straight line speed isn't going to be beaten but the handling can be improved upon vastly......opinions please.

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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This might help you ?

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=323485
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Mog,

Give Litcho a bell and book yourself a test drive. It is one of those cars that a magazine article or even another persons description just doesn't do justice to it. Seriously.

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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I've done that, I'm just looking for some opinions and T25 owners.

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mog
but I really want to know what a Type 25 is like...Mog
It is totally amazing.. test drove it some months ago.. awesome

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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What do you want to know? pm me
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Anyone else.....
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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I have 440 bhp RS4 at the moment so straight line speed isn't going to be beaten
I think you might be surprised at just how fast the T25 is.

It's a truly incredible tool, and you will find yourself travelling at speeds on many roads that you simply wouldn't dare in the RS4. I haven't actually driven an RS4 but have been a passenger, and I have to say I didn't feel as comfortable travelling quickly on minor A and B roads as I did behind the wheel of the T25.

There is practically no let up in the pace of acceleration, even in 5th and 6th.

The (adjustable) suspension somehow manages to be utterly stable on fast bends and yet almost refined around town.

Likewise, with the extra torque of the 2.5 you can pootle around in 4th and 5th all day.

The only thing I would change is the front brakes. In a car like that you really need some AP 6-pots or similar.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Absolutely agree on the brakes.

First thing on my STI8 was take those Brembos off....

Can be improved though with better discs and pads.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Hey mate

My mate has a 410 bhp RS4, and I drove it when it was standard and after the remap.

To me it didnt feel tremendously faster, only marginally.

There is a great quarter mile simulator that can pit various cars against each other. (using real world data)

http://www.jsread.com/tvr/quartermile.htm

The Type 25 leaves the standard RS4 a good few car lengths behind over the 1/4

Now pure speculation, but I think it would do the same to my mates modded RS4.

As for yours at 440 bhp I dunno !! but test drive one.. and let us all know !!

and thats just in a straight line - over a mile of twisties there would be simply no comparison.....
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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There must be some owners here.....
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Originally Posted by Mog
There must be some owners here.....
Yes dc911. I suggest you PM him as he suggests
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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errrrr...done that, just waiting for enlightenment
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Mog - I don't think there are that many Type25 owners around, mainly as I don't think there are many Type25's around at the moment.
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Driven.
very impressive tool.
My next car for sure.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ARRON BIRD
Driven.
very impressive tool.
My next car for sure.
The Oracle has spoken
What does your mate Mike Wood think about this??
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i think you would have to ask him that question for him to answer.
Mike and Prodrive are still the best at what they do with what they get.
The WR1 is a fantastic car.
Its a shame that so many people slate it.
So much rubbish about it take Top Gear for example.
Didnt even have the same tyres on
Do people actually know what tyres imported cars have on??
Would have been a little fairer then I think!!!!
I would buy a WR1 no question but my next car has to be SIGNIFICANTLY different to the car I have and the T25 fits that bill.
I`ve done the M3 thing and the luxury thing. I need raw performance with a little comfort at a reasonable cost then I`m sorted.
Just need the warranty to be hard and fast!!!
I think Iain has produced something that PD would love to have done and are more than capable of doing. Like I say they have to work with whatever Subaru UK chuck at them.

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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RE070s I would guess, is what the importers have on.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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I think you are right Adam.
Bit better round the track than P Zero Nero`s tho eh!!!!
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RE070 on the Type25, but I know Litcho likes to use another makers tyres altogether when showboating.
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Originally Posted by ARRON BIRD
i think you would have to ask him that question for him to answer.
Mike and Prodrive are still the best at what they do with what they get.
The WR1 is a fantastic car.
Its a shame that so many people slate it.
So much rubbish about it take Top Gear for example.
Didnt even have the same tyres on
Do people actually know what tyres imported cars have on??
Would have been a little fairer then I think!!!!
I would buy a WR1 no question but my next car has to be SIGNIFICANTLY different to the car I have and the T25 fits that bill.
I`ve done the M3 thing and the luxury thing. I need raw performance with a little comfort at a reasonable cost then I`m sorted.
Just need the warranty to be hard and fast!!!
I think Iain has produced something that PD would love to have done and are more than capable of doing. Like I say they have to work with whatever Subaru UK chuck at them.
The WR1 has P Zero Nero's on, same as I got on my 18"s and I think they're ok... squealy but pirelis are good tryes...

T25 for me next I thing unless PD get there fingure out!
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Originally Posted by Mog
After test driving a FQ300 this morning I came away very dissapointed with the grunt of the engine, I have booked a test drive with a MR340 in a couple of weeks but I really want to know what a Type 25 is like...is it better than a Spec C or MR340.....are there any owners of a Type 25 on here. I have 440 bhp RS4 at the moment so straight line speed isn't going to be beaten but the handling can be improved upon vastly......opinions please.

Thanks
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I had a run ingainst a RS4, and to be really honest from the roundabout up 500m of dual carrigeway... it didn't exactly romp out of sight, more just walking pace... That was in my STI PPP with half a tank of juice and me onboard... i expected it to be blistering, like when I got wasted by a Tuscan...
T25 m8... you know it makes sense
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Originally Posted by Edcase
Great on the....
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Excuse me but did I miss something??
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I had to work hard against an Astra Turbo last night.
Thats why I need SIGNIFICANTLY more power
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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Not that it proves anything, but a Spec C will get from 70mph to circa 130mph very slightly quicker that an RS6, up an incline. We started side by side ( Yes, it was a dual carriageway, and it was mate so I do know he was trying) but I did honestly expect to be left behind.

Having driven the T25, I think you'll need the same power as an RS6 but be a good 500kg lighter to worry it. Very impressive indeed.
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Type 25

Saw it
drove it
bought it

Can't wait for it to be delivered
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I was on a dual carrigeway behind the Astra.
I was reeling him in but not as fast as I would have liked.
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