What do you reckon it will depreciate to in another 3 years?

Would not dream of buying one new.

Compared with running a modded Scooby would it not be cheaper?

[Edited by john banks - 8/5/2003 4:30:30 PM]

 

Anyone beat an 8:20? Modified or standard? If modified what spec?

Anyone any ideas what production Subarus have done around the ring as I have not been able to find numbers.

 

whats that 8 hours 20.....

 

MY02STi7UK PPP the only timed lap i have is 10:15 ish it was my very fisrt lap there and was driving the Car carefully as I always do
Well bar from a slight off just after the Fox hole the lefthander I had overtaken a bike putting the Car off line and carring too much speed into the next corner. Driver Error

Tony

 

standard spec c managed 8.06.59.

there is a vid on iain litchfields website in the spec c section.

 

Sport Auto, a german magazine, from editor Horst Von Saurna has used a EU type Turbo old shape for a "dauertest" of 60.000 miles.
They also have managed to lap the ring in 8,37 min. Standard Turbo with absolutely no mods on it...

Creepy

 

Where is Mr. Felstead?

 

John,

Bog standard MY00 driven by one of the best Ring drivers:

8:37

That's for a full lap, none of this "BTG" stuff.

They were over the moon with the car's behaviour FWIW.

Theo

PS: full data: http://www.track-challenge.com/main....st1.asp?Car=13

 

Theo, the BTG "stuff" is the only way you can get a time on a public day, if there were an alternative we would use it.

my quickest so far is 8:20 BTG 2 up in my STi5 Type RA running on normal road tyres. Sticky TypeR tyres would be worth at least 1 second a mile, maybe 2.

 

Not a scoob but, Radical have just been around the "Ring" in a 1500 turbo version of their SR3 in 7:19 knocking 13s off the production car record.

 

My BTG time was 9:20 ish for a bog standard old style Classic on worn out F1's. To put this into perspective I'm not the greatest driver in the world and my friend in his BMW328i was running in 9:50's. When I took my old car a standard MK2 Golf GTi I did it in 10 mins 14 secs.

These times were being cautious and learning the lines (best plan as far as I'm concerned). I've now stopped timing myself as it is not compatible with safety IMHO.

 

My quickest BTG, in my Skoda, is 8:42

 

John you seem very quiet about your Ten of the best results
Did you get hammered???
I expected to see a 10 page post on how you lapped everyone
PI55 TAKE ALERT.
I would have come along and pedalled the old girl for you if you were finding it a bit of a struggle

 

I've experienced basically standard ( PPP'd) Imprezas doing 8:17's and 8:20 BTG. My old 330d did 8:47 BTG and a 9:12 when it was snowing.

Matt

 

Quote: "and a 9:12 when it was snowing."

The track isn't open to the public under those conditions, how did you manage that then?

An 8:47 in a 330D is an impressive time- how were you measuring BTG?

 

...oh but it is!! I have in-car footage of me launching my Lotus Elise off into a biig spin in the snow

...IIRC my MY98 Wagon (standard) did around the same times as Matts 330D..

 

They actually leave it open in the snow!!!!!! That must be mental, I'd been assured that they shut it when the conditions become adverse.

If I ever got the chance to do it in the snow I'm sure I would be a lot slower than 10 mins.

 

It was snowing for a bit at Easter and they didn't close the track.....

Matt

 

...and it wasn't closed on July 27th either when there was torrential rain in the afternoon (in which even Sabine refused to go out!! )

 

I was there on the 27th-and the rain was torrential- I saw what looked like a river running down towards the Adenau entrance.

I've seen some bad conditions but never snow- in fact I'm not sure I'd be mad/man enough for that.

 

ARRON BIRD

Johns engine went after only attempt at the handling course Not alot you can say about that is there

Paul

 

MattOz, what times in your E39 M5? (that was actually the point I had in mind with the thread but I didn't say so )

 

John,

With Matt driving, or someone who can drive?

Matt

 

The thoughts in my head go like this...

You can buy a 3 year old M5 with 30000 miles for the price of a new STi or less. Fully kitted out, tremendous breadth of ability etc. It sounds like it is at least as quick as most Scoobys as well.

A big heavy "barge" (obviously not) that pulls 0.1g extra in corners over a Scooby, and does 0-125-0 about 10 seconds quicker than a classic Scooby It would take some serious modifications to take 10 seconds off that time...

Quite a convincing case for a swap?

 

I would take an M5 over my classic Impreza any day, truly awesome cars that I've seen in extreme action at the ring.

When the later models get to the 25K mark I will buy one.

 

..yes! plus the torque..oooh the torque - driving Matts through a village at about 25mph in 6th and its quite happy - from that speed in the same gear it'll surge all the way to the limited top speed..

..then theres the spec
..the luxury
..the "Q" car looks
..and the telly

 

John,

Hum, M5 and classic STI on wet bumpy country backroads... I wonder which would be making better progress?

Moray
(STI+M3 at moment)

 

I hope you boys all ahve that £30K in the bank cash to buy your 3 year old M5 cos if you try and finance it like a new Scoob you may have a shock!!!!
As they depreciate like **** you pay for it on a monthly basis big time.
Looked at a year old M fumf after I sold my M3 and the repayments were crazy!!!!!
A new Scoob however will be much less.
The M fumf is however a fantastic car and as long as I could afford to buy one cash I would.
Bit scary once the warranty has run out if anything does go wrong tho