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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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As many will know, i've just bought a Hawkeye JDM STI.

Over the last few days, i've been thinking it may be worthwhile using it as a weekend car and buying something a little more normal for during the week and the daily slog.

I did pay over the odds for the car, probably a good £1k/£1.5k if i'm honest, but to be honest it looked how i wanted (which i've now decided isn't how i want it to look!) and i was sick of viewing dogs of cars, having travelled hundreds of miles on 3 seperate occasions i just decided this was the car to have with it being owned by various members on here and looked after so the seller got a good price for it which i'm sure he will agree.

So value now, what would you say?

55 JDM Hawk STI
45k miles with all docs/history, etc
Will be mint condition when i've had a few tiny bits done

and value in a few years if kept low mileage and mint?

If it's going to drop in value then i figure I may aswell use it daily and enjoy it, if it may go up slightly then i rather keep it for weekends and i'll probably enjoy it more when i do use it.

For those who arent aware, a spec below and few pics to help with a value.

JDM Hawk STI
2.0 Twin Scroll
Amber illuminated Defi instrumentation with sweep-on-start
Electric folding mirrors
Quicker steering rack
8000rpm redline
Larger profile cams with AVCS
Larger valves
Forged con rods
Nitrated and cross drilled crank
6-speed with DCCD with Auto Mode
Auto intercooler spray
Titanium strut brace
Full Milltek turbo back exhaust with sports cat
Tein Springs
Exedy clutch
AP Cosworth 6 Pot Brakes
Cosworth Panel Filter
Remapped by JGM (A.K.A Simon Roe - RIP!)
Rota Grids 9.5 with 235/40/18 Vredestein Sessanta
Carbon Fibre front splitter
HT Autos Sideskirt extensions and rear splitters/extensions
Rear diffuser
£140 a year tax

Currently running 350bhp/365lb/ft with printouts.




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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:28 PM
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It seems most sti imprezas are holding value.
Sioc have probably ruined most of them by now
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Not just STI's either. Even the poverty WRX's are starting to hold their own.

In fact, most used performance cars in general are starting to go up in value.
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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I would expect you won't lose much if any on the car were you to sell in a few years and maintained it well. As long as you waited long enough for the right buyer of course.

I agree with Thomas that a lot of the 10+ year old Subarus are levelling out in price. I personally don't think the going rate will increase for a long time yet, with the exception of the rarest and most desirable versions. 22B, Type RA-R etc.

I would use the car, enjoy it and not be scared to put a few miles on it in the process. Like I said it won't cost you much.
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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It won't go up in value unless you put money ( value ) into it .
Your already talking about loosing the rota's n AP's...
In my eye that's £1500.
What you replace them with ? It's either add or subtract ..
But adding real cash value to the car will take a lot more than cosmetics..
Just my opinion , take it with a pinch
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
It won't go up in value unless you put money ( value ) into it .
Your already talking about loosing the rota's n AP's...
In my eye that's £1500.
What you replace them with ? It's either add or subtract ..
But adding real cash value to the car will take a lot more than cosmetics..
Just my opinion , take it with a pinch
Absolutely, but put it this way, i'm not going to remove the rotas and AP's and replace them with lesser items now, am i.

If its going to be garaged and a weekend toy, it's going to be running big power in a few months, if not then i'll be leaving it pretty much as it is.

As i've said, weighing up options, still no-one with any ideas of where you would place the value of it now? as is?
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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Removing those wheels and replacing with decent ones will add value,leave the brakes on though
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Totally agree, I have seen prices of UK widetracks remain around the same as I paid 11 months ago for mine

I brought it as a second car, very low mileage and plan to keep for the foreseeable future, don't ever think I will "make" money on it but at the rate newage Impreza's seem to be getting broken for spares at the moment and the fact we keep being told people have a few quid in their pocket now as a previous post suggested IF you did decide to sell in the future then hold out for the best price right buyer.

Most of the bargain ones I have seen recently are people selling to get deposit for house / kids on the way etc..
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I would guess (IMHO) that you paid between £12.5-14k for it. Maybe closer to £14k due to the brakes.

Based on the Spec C, Spec C Type RA and JDM STi for sale at the mo.
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
It won't go up in value unless you put money ( value ) into it .
Your already talking about loosing the rota's n AP's...
In my eye that's £1500.
What you replace them with ? It's either add or subtract ..
But adding real cash value to the car will take a lot more than cosmetics..
Just my opinion , take it with a pinch
Originality is also proving to be popular at the moment. Certain models sell better when left alone and stick to the purity that they where built for. I have had 8 variants of Subaru cars (two UK) and currently run a JDM Blob WRX running 300 BHP (thanks to Bob Rawle) but would not buy another UK spec car from new.

The JDM cars are percieved (actually) as being better equipped, built and rarer so adding value. Newly imported unmolested cars and the lack of investment in models and the UK markets by Subaru will only add to the values increasing.

I run a **** can Rover 25 daily and the Scoob is for fun.

Just my tuppence worth.

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Most decent imprezas are not everyday use cars nowadays either.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Most decent imprezas are not everyday use cars nowadays either.
im sure You dont have in mind Yours Malta import sti
no idea how decent alloys could up in value , turinis cost around 1k the same like rotas
british math level
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I have a Toshi Arai Hawk Spec C which I hardly use, use it in good weather.

Swap wheels and remove them extensions, will look a different car then keep it for the weekend.

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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fawor
im sure You dont have in mind Yours Malta import sti
no idea how decent alloys could up in value , turinis cost around 1k the same like rotas
british math level
Sti type UK,
Unlike you it's from the uk and not a 500 quid wrx with an eBay spoiler
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
It won't go up in value unless you put money ( value ) into it .
Your already talking about loosing the rota's n AP's...
In my eye that's £1500.
What you replace them with ? It's either add or subtract ..
But adding real cash value to the car will take a lot more than cosmetics..
Just my opinion , take it with a pinch
I'd disagree with that on both fronts...the brakes won't add much value AND the car won't lose much value as the long as the miles are kept below 60k.

I have been watching the market for a while and it is very different from 12 months ago. Good cars are in limited supply and there are a lot of buyers circling. We are coming out of the prolonged downturn and the 2010-13 period of depressed prices. The only other JDM hawk that is currently openly advertised in the UK is listed at £13k with 54k miles, and that's a fresh import which will need service, map, alarm etc.

Even allowing for asset inflation (the secondhand market overall is a bit of a bubble due to low interest rates etc.) a top-notch JDM hawk is about as good a place to put your money as any.
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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Personally I dont buy a car and then think about it's resale value as I'm not planning on selling it (with caveat that in life **** can happen, but I dont plan on reselling.)
If you've got the resale value in your mind already are you truly happy with the car?
Just drive it and enjoy it.

If you are looking for investments then there are much better ways to do it.
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I got mine for what I class as good money, what's a hawk spec-c worth with sub 50k on the clock, Porsche 6 pots, AP rear 4 pots, fully polybushed with the summit catalogue fitted, new coilovers and all the other handling bits that go with it and Defi gauges with Speedline Turinis fitted to finish it off, I'm pretty sure it's less than I paid
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
I got mine for what I class as good money, what's a hawk spec-c worth with sub 50k on the clock, Porsche 6 pots, AP rear 4 pots, fully polybushed with the summit catalogue fitted, new coilovers and all the other handling bits that go with it and Defi gauges with Speedline Turinis fitted to finish it off, I'm pretty sure it's less than I paid
I don't know, but 1. don't hijack my thread with your own whats it worth and 2. hand over those speedline turinis right now!
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kosy
I would guess (IMHO) that you paid between £12.5-14k for it. Maybe closer to £14k due to the brakes.

Based on the Spec C, Spec C Type RA and JDM STi for sale at the mo.
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I'd disagree with that on both fronts...the brakes won't add much value AND the car won't lose much value as the long as the miles are kept below 60k.

I have been watching the market for a while and it is very different from 12 months ago. Good cars are in limited supply and there are a lot of buyers circling. We are coming out of the prolonged downturn and the 2010-13 period of depressed prices. The only other JDM hawk that is currently openly advertised in the UK is listed at £13k with 54k miles, and that's a fresh import which will need service, map, alarm etc.

Even allowing for asset inflation (the secondhand market overall is a bit of a bubble due to low interest rates etc.) a top-notch JDM hawk is about as good a place to put your money as any.
Well, these make me feel a lot better about what i paid now then
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Orite mate I own a jdm T20, I can't really see them going up in value but I can see them really holding onto their value and not depreciating. So in order to keep it at its full value keep it in as best nick as possible and keep all paper work/ receipts for work carried out etc.

As for owning one of these I only really use mine on weekends due to my job it wouldn't be good carrying all my tools in the car lol. But this does help keep the millage down and then I know when I get in it on the weekends I can really enjoy it and have a good blast!
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so how much did you pay ?
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You've bought at the top of the market so don't expect yours to go up for at least 5 years.

Type R's / RA's and STI Classics in good condition are going up, even the likes of UK turbo 2000 in above average condition are commanding a premium.

Yours will go up in value but it will take a while and the milage will need to be low.

Personally I'd just drive it and enjoy it, **** the value.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Most decent imprezas are not everyday use cars nowadays either.
Mine is. Don't really do many miles however. The wife's car is always used for parking in supermarket car parks, school runs etc. so it's as good, body wise, as the day I bought it.

A car salesman recently commented that it was a minter and a proper car.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Removing those wheels and replacing with decent ones will add value,leave the brakes on though
^That.
Use the car and enjoy it, make sure it is mapped for UK fuel and that's it, no point adding mega power.

Cars are to be driven not sat in a garage.
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Originally Posted by stuart148
so how much did you pay ?
£12,500
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IMO the topic of using the car daily or not is separate from that of preserving the car's value.

Personally I'd never use an Impreza as a daily driver unless my commute was comprised of empty B-roads (which it will never be). There are far better cars for the daily grind.

Get a comfortable old shed for transportation and keep the special car for special drives. I personally don't subscribe to the "I want to enjoy it every day" school of thought - any car will quickly stop feeling special if you have to do the daily slog in it. All IMO of course.
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Originally Posted by plenty
Personally I'd never use an Impreza as a daily driver unless my commute was comprised of empty B-roads (which it will never be). There are far better cars for the daily grind.
See your point, but I don't know about where you are, in this neck of the woods every moron and it's brother seems to like to clog the roads up on a weekend. Just an exercise in frustration more than anything enjoyable.

I like a good sup on a weekend so won't drive then anyway.
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Originally Posted by BBB3
I have a Toshi Arai Hawk Spec C which I hardly use, use it in good weather.

Swap wheels and remove them extensions, will look a different car then keep it for the weekend.
What a stupid comment.
If he likes the wheels and skirts thats up to him.
Personally i love the wheels and the skirts, so i would keep them on if i was you.
If you do remove the wheels though give me a shout!!
Regarding daily use, ive had sporty motors as daily cars and basic cheap motors as daily cars, gone through a lot of cars and now days use a company car as a daily and keep any special / sporty car as a second toy, and i have to say although its fun to use sports cars daily i much prefer having them as a weekend / evening toy.

You tend to fall out of love a bit quicker when you use them every day, especially if they are temperamental cars like imprezas !
But either way has its pros and cons.
Do what you prefer to do.
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Originally Posted by Barxy
What a stupid comment.
If he likes the wheels and skirts thats up to him.
Personally i love the wheels and the skirts, so i would keep them on if i was you.
If you do remove the wheels though give me a shout!!
Regarding daily use, ive had sporty motors as daily cars and basic cheap motors as daily cars, gone through a lot of cars and now days use a company car as a daily and keep any special / sporty car as a second toy, and i have to say although its fun to use sports cars daily i much prefer having them as a weekend / evening toy.

You tend to fall out of love a bit quicker when you use them every day, especially if they are temperamental cars like imprezas !
But either way has its pros and cons.
Do what you prefer to do.
The skirts have today been removed. For me, having had it a few days, 1. they're very close to catching on things (one was actually damaged when i bought it from this) and 2. the rear extensions n particular looked very erm... chavvy? The wheels ARE coming off in a few days and getting replaced with either Speedline Turinis or Prodrive GT1's (if the latter will clear my AP 6 pots that is).
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My old car.

Not many about in such great condition with such a great history, spec and low mileage.

I personally think £12500 is bang on the value.
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