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Old 17 March 2014, 08:11 AM
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Md 321v non billet 2.1 495bhp/420ftlb @ 1.8 bar on v power here

V is for the bigger engines not the t
Old 17 March 2014, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
Md 321v non billet 2.1 495bhp/420ftlb @ 1.8 bar on v power here

V is for the bigger engines not the t
That's what I thought. Looks like your V performs how it should though.
Old 17 March 2014, 09:04 AM
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I had a 321h on my 2.0ltr and that made 420bhp and 385lbs/ft. That was with hyperflow fmic, lateral headers and up pipe, 650cc injectors and an autronics ecu mapped at sc
Old 17 March 2014, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by madwrx

I go over the car top to bottom normally fresh plugs and fuel filter ,clean air filter,tyre pressures and brim tank to the top(easy to use a tank full when road mapping)
On a previous v1 wrx I had the ignition coils failed at 1.3 bar
Took a fortnight to get another slot from mapper.
2 days off work- 1 set of coils ,3 tanks of juice and 2 lots of mapping ,expensive ,probably added £500 to mapping costs.
This.

Totally agree, mate.
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made 431bhp 385ft/lb today
Old 19 March 2014, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
made 431bhp 385ft/lb today
Boost? Any graphs? I assume v power only?
Old 19 March 2014, 05:36 PM
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Sorry no graph road mapped boost was 1.6 on vpower
Old 19 March 2014, 05:45 PM
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who mapped?
Old 19 March 2014, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RICHARD J
That's what I thought. Looks like your V performs how it should though.

Got an mdx321v on my hawkeye (495x470 ) spools up very well but think it's suited to the 2.5
Old 19 March 2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by craigyp
who mapped?
andy forrest
Old 19 March 2014, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
made 431bhp 385ft/lb today
i certainly would,nt be disapointed with that,would cost you 35k to buy
a 996 turbo to match those numbers, much more importantly how does it drive on the road peter,even a fat newage will do low 4s 0-60 and 8.5-9 seconds 0-100 at these power levels mate
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
made 431bhp 385ft/lb today
I'm sure you're pleased with it but another one falling short of the 450 mark. Is it a 2L & how does it drive? How much boost are you running too?
Old 19 March 2014, 08:17 PM
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Yes 2l After i got over not getting 400torque i was fine it drives really well no feel of lag boost 1.65
Old 19 March 2014, 08:18 PM
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Andy showed me a overlay of my 20g and 321t and the t matches it from the start
Old 19 March 2014, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby2.5maz
Got an mdx321v on my hawkeye (495x470 ) spools up very well but think it's suited to the 2.5
Sorry, are you saying yours is a 2.5, or that it would work better on a 2.5? The V seems to perform nearer it's claimed figures but Iv not heard of one on a 2L. Perhaps I need one of these for 450 on V power.
Old 19 March 2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
Yes 2l After i got over not getting 400torque i was fine it drives really well no feel of lag boost 1.65
Yea mine drives OK too but I'm sure it'd drive even better with another 20 horses on V Power. My plan was to have 450 on V Power & not have to mess around with Meth for my power goal. My Meth map was meant for when I wanted that little extra for occasional use. I now feel I want Meth in the tank all the time to have the power I want on tap, which was never my intention. My RCM 400 did 410 on VPower so the MDX is a bit of a let down eventhough it drives well.

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bit hard to say richard a full time mapper like andyf would build a nice safe map ,he would be looking for the "sweet spot" in the boost ignition and afr plots, i,m sure if you told him you "needed" another 19bhp he could squeeze the **** out of the turbo to get the magic numbers.
the 2.0 litre engines respond really well to head and cam mods.
good numbers from bolt on mods really(turbo,headers exhaust,intake injectors,fuel pump).
i wonder whether the 450 cars are the exception rather than the norm when tuning the 2.0 engines
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When we did power runs he told me to go to 7000 as it had more to give but it pulled timing when we did it
Old 19 March 2014, 09:59 PM
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peter quite interesting to read martinj(engine tuner) reply on craigps thread about his turbo mate,bit more to getting the numbers than just turbo mods alone i think,
Old 19 March 2014, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by madwrx
bit hard to say richard a full time mapper like andyf would build a nice safe map ,he would be looking for the "sweet spot" in the boost ignition and afr plots, i,m sure if you told him you "needed" another 19bhp he could squeeze the **** out of the turbo to get the magic numbers.
the 2.0 litre engines respond really well to head and cam mods.
good numbers from bolt on mods really(turbo,headers exhaust,intake injectors,fuel pump).
i wonder whether the 450 cars are the exception rather than the norm when tuning the 2.0 engines
Perhaps I'd have to do serious head work to see 450 on V Power on this turbo but then 450 just wouldn't be enough & I'd be looking at a rotated set up to see proper power. If I keep the car perhaps I'll go down that route anyway. I'm sure there are some out there but Iv not come across a 2L running an MDX321T which has made 450 on VPower only.
Old 19 March 2014, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
When we did power runs he told me to go to 7000 as it had more to give but it pulled timing when we did it
We all know Andy is one of the best mappers & I'm sure he has got as much out of it as he safely can. 430 on a 2L is respectable, but I'm just wondering what needs to be done to see 450 on a 2L on VPower & if anyone has done it & with what spec. There are other turbos which do give 450 on a 2L.
Old 19 March 2014, 10:53 PM
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I know 450bhp has been achieved on VPower with a 2ltr standard engine Newage STI... albeit the JDM variety (of the ones I know).

I suspect the tubular twinscroll headers help out here, but you'll need a good set-up altogether to achieve it.

Mine will achieve 450bhp and I know another that has done 450bhp.

Mine on 20% meth does 490/475 (the meth circa 10% power increase) - which is pretty mental for a standard 2ltr engine with standard position turbo.

Both cars are JDM Hawkeyes and both using the LM billet turbos..... which are very similar to the MDX range.

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Richard - yours is a classic yeah? What's the spec?
Old 19 March 2014, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Richard - yours is a classic yeah? What's the spec?
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OK here is some of the spec I'm sure I'll forget lots of it though.
Fully forged engine build originally by Advanced Automotive, but refreshed recently by Paul Finch.
Mahle Pistons Manley Rods
ACL bearings
ARP studs
Cosworth gaskets & sump baffle
CDB
V3 STI heads
Cross Drilled Nitrided Crank
RCM 740 injectors
Billet rails
Parallel braided fuel set up
Fuel Lab press Reg
RCM pulley set
RCM induction
RCM headers
RCM 3 inch decat downpipe
Harvey up pipe
Cobra 3inch track friendly system
Fadanza flywheel
AP racing clutch
6 speed box with new synchros
Gold brembos all round
Orange stuff pads
Braided lines
Hybrid FMIC
MDX321T
Laterall wired inlet pipe
Alcatec ECU with 4 maps inc Meth
JGM mapped
BC coil overs
WhiteLine drop links & R ARB
RA roof flap
Inovit Redline 18s with Hankook Ventus tyres
Set of 4 60mm Defi Advance BF gauges
Walbro in tank pump
ET underbonnet swirlpot with Bosch 044 pump
OBP big port oil catch can
Innovate AFR gauge
Depo fuel pressure gauge
Inlet manifold spacers
Reverse bonnet vent
Front mount oil cooler
Full samco water hose set
RCM oil pump
RCM thermostat

I'll add to this if I think of anything else.
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shaun the later jdm sti heads and cams must breathe well mate
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Who mapped it and what boost you running.

IMO the JDM Hawkeye 2ltr is at the top of it's game, so figures I would suspect on these engines (inc. headers and up-pipe), are best case scenario (for the masses).
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nice spec richard
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Originally Posted by madwrx
shaun the later jdm sti heads and cams must breathe well mate
I could be wrong, but I *think* the widetrack JDM STI has the same heads and cams as the previous model SPEC C's (which were wilder cams and bigger ported heads).

On the turbo I have the standard lump is consuming as much air as the turbo can give.... any more boost and the turbo is pumping hot air. I could certainly get away with a bigger turbo on this engine.... although I suspect the engine might not keep consuming air (without ****ting it's pants), much over 490bhp's worth.
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Originally Posted by madwrx
nice spec richard
Thanks, perhaps that's why I expected a little more.
Old 20 March 2014, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Who mapped it and what boost you running.

IMO the JDM Hawkeye 2ltr is at the top of it's game, so figures I would suspect on these engines (inc. headers and up-pipe), are best case scenario (for the masses).
Shaun, it was mapped by JGM, peak boost is 1.8 bar tailing off to 1.6.


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