Missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 - question?
10 March 2014, 09:44 AM
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Well time to be surprised as apparently they aren't or so we are being told! Couldn't agree more, I am staggered that an airport like KL isn't routinely checking for stolen passport numbers!
10 March 2014, 10:24 AM
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Yes I just read that myself. It's jawdropping really. We go thorugh all this scanning and bag searching crap over and over in the name of security and we now find that literally millions of peple are flying around with their passports unchecked.
It's like they learned nothing from 9/11
10 March 2014, 10:39 AM
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This seems to be the most likely scenario now sadly. I can't help but wonder why after several days of searching the sea why they don't seem to have also turned their attention to the land in the area, if as the radar track seems to suggest that the plane may have turned back would it not be reasonable to check there too?
I also wonder what the delay is with using some serious tech to search for it. The Americans would have us believe they can find a fly on a camel's back from one of their satellites or recon planes. Perhaps they're too busy over Ukraine right now. Even half a dozen of the drones on shifts could cover vast amounts of ground with proper recon capabilities.
I also wonder what the delay is with using some serious tech to search for it. The Americans would have us believe they can find a fly on a camel's back from one of their satellites or recon planes. Perhaps they're too busy over Ukraine right now. Even half a dozen of the drones on shifts could cover vast amounts of ground with proper recon capabilities.
10 March 2014, 10:46 AM
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thing is no flotsam, youd have thought a few Samsonite cases floating around, which leads me to believe something else, Maybe chair foam manythings.
I think Aliens have taken them for **** tests, or high jacked. Even blowing something up would have left **** everywhere UNLESS it was done at 34000 feet, then the coverage would be quite wide, but still noticeable.
I think Aliens have taken them for **** tests, or high jacked. Even blowing something up would have left **** everywhere UNLESS it was done at 34000 feet, then the coverage would be quite wide, but still noticeable.
10 March 2014, 11:26 AM
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The only thing I can think of now is either they are looking in the wrong place (sea or land) or it landed intact after some kind of problem / take over and then sunk intact.
If it crashed, or blew up - there would be loads of debris all over the sea.
I think it will now be either the sunken option or perhaps its crashed into the rain forest somewhere way outside the search area.
Very, very odd.
If it crashed, or blew up - there would be loads of debris all over the sea.
I think it will now be either the sunken option or perhaps its crashed into the rain forest somewhere way outside the search area.
Very, very odd.
10 March 2014, 11:46 AM
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The only thing I can think of now is either they are looking in the wrong place (sea or land) or it landed intact after some kind of problem / take over and then sunk intact.
If it crashed, or blew up - there would be loads of debris all over the sea.
I think it will now be either the sunken option or perhaps its crashed into the rain forest somewhere way outside the search area.
Very, very odd.
If it crashed, or blew up - there would be loads of debris all over the sea.
I think it will now be either the sunken option or perhaps its crashed into the rain forest somewhere way outside the search area.
Very, very odd.
10 March 2014, 12:08 PM
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Exactly, there are many possible answers but no evidence of any of them happening. If we had debris then we could consider crash or explosion but so far nothing. No info on radar tracks either, or any word from Boeing on the flight data.
10 March 2014, 12:17 PM
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it will be a mystery, until all the facts are known
then it will be obvious what happened to it
if we can't get to all the facts it will be a "best guess"
if people are not happy with the "best guess", then Aliens it is (or Lost, or the illuminate or the Jews or .............)
then it will be obvious what happened to it
if we can't get to all the facts it will be a "best guess"
if people are not happy with the "best guess", then Aliens it is (or Lost, or the illuminate or the Jews or .............)
10 March 2014, 01:33 PM
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Well.. Just listening to some aviation expert,saying that the plane would of been at cruising altitude,the more safest part of the flight.if anything were to go wrong,the pilots would have time to do something.So he reckons it would of been something serious has gone wrong,not giving the pilots chance to do anything,explosion was mentioned,fuel tank,engine,or in the hold.
10 March 2014, 01:52 PM
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I see China is urging Malaysia to "step up its efforts" in the search for the plane... very helpful statement by them as I am sure the Malaysains are sitting around doing nothing 
10 March 2014, 02:08 PM
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tis strange indeed. if its running the RR engines and they were maintained by RR there would have been a live link to the plane at the time.
News was saying that it would be unlikley that wreckage would be found if it blew up at 38,000 feet, no idea if that would have shown up on radar or not.
News was saying that it would be unlikley that wreckage would be found if it blew up at 38,000 feet, no idea if that would have shown up on radar or not.
10 March 2014, 03:00 PM
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This one exploded at 24000 feet, there were a number of radar traces detected by the military which they believe were the parts of the disintegrating aircraft.
The parts sank to depths up to 3500 metres but they were able to recover enough to do rebuild much of the aircraft for the investigation.
And this was in 1980...
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19800627-0
Although the cause is still being disputed.
Quite baffling this disappearance, the 777 is a very robust reliable aircraft - until now at least.
The parts sank to depths up to 3500 metres but they were able to recover enough to do rebuild much of the aircraft for the investigation.
And this was in 1980...
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19800627-0
Although the cause is still being disputed.
Quite baffling this disappearance, the 777 is a very robust reliable aircraft - until now at least.
10 March 2014, 03:16 PM
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The only thing I can think of other than a crash off the grid is perhaps there was a problem with the air supply and the aircraft just kept on going till it ran out of fuel - like the crash in Greece a few years ago.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
10 March 2014, 03:36 PM
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The only thing I can think of other than a crash off the grid is perhaps there was a problem with the air supply and the aircraft just kept on going till it ran out of fuel - like the crash in Greece a few years ago.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
10 March 2014, 04:05 PM
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BBC report a relative managed to call a pax via mobile phone after the aircraft went missing.
To me this indicates that the phone was in coverage and whilst they don't say if it was answered or not it shows the phone was not in bits or under the sea and it was near population to get coverage. The phone may have been ejected during a crash for example.
They have tried to call the phone again to verify but its not working any more, which indicates its now gone flat.
The plot thickens!
To me this indicates that the phone was in coverage and whilst they don't say if it was answered or not it shows the phone was not in bits or under the sea and it was near population to get coverage. The phone may have been ejected during a crash for example.
They have tried to call the phone again to verify but its not working any more, which indicates its now gone flat.
The plot thickens!
10 March 2014, 04:14 PM
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I think if the plane was put in a nose dive from 35000 feet it would be going faster than the speed of sound when it hit the water, there would be nothing lager than a4 paper size bits of plane, and the water is only 40 meters deep in most places, so I think debris would be seen.
10 March 2014, 04:37 PM
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The only thing I can think of other than a crash off the grid is perhaps there was a problem with the air supply and the aircraft just kept on going till it ran out of fuel - like the crash in Greece a few years ago.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
But again, there would be radar tracks etc. They must have a decent ide where it went from radar.
10 March 2014, 04:58 PM
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BBC report a relative managed to call a pax via mobile phone after the aircraft went missing.
To me this indicates that the phone was in coverage and whilst they don't say if it was answered or not it shows the phone was not in bits or under the sea and it was near population to get coverage. The phone may have been ejected during a crash for example.
They have tried to call the phone again to verify but its not working any more, which indicates its now gone flat.
The plot thickens!
To me this indicates that the phone was in coverage and whilst they don't say if it was answered or not it shows the phone was not in bits or under the sea and it was near population to get coverage. The phone may have been ejected during a crash for example.
They have tried to call the phone again to verify but its not working any more, which indicates its now gone flat.
The plot thickens!
10 March 2014, 05:08 PM
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If anyone is interested in aviation incidents on a daily basis, and there are alot more than you would imagine, the below is a very interesting site 
http://avherald.com/
http://avherald.com/
10 March 2014, 05:26 PM
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That part of the south china sea is saturated with small fishing vessels at night, most of them with bright lights used for squid fishing.
Overflying the sea in darkness looks much like overflying a city at night. If the aircraft did enter the sea either intact or in pieces the local fishermen would have seen something, or found something by now. I wonder if the fishng boats have been forced to remain moored while the heavyweights go in search of wreckage? I dont think the multinational rescue effort would want to be beaten to the wrecage by a fisherman in his beaten up wooden boat,
The sea depth is estimated to be between 50 and 120m in the main search area - I would assume that the kit needed to locate the FDR and CVR should already be with the S&R crews - in water at that depth it should be possible to recieve the pings emitted by these devices and recover them with relative ease but this assumes they are searching in the right area.
Overflying the sea in darkness looks much like overflying a city at night. If the aircraft did enter the sea either intact or in pieces the local fishermen would have seen something, or found something by now. I wonder if the fishng boats have been forced to remain moored while the heavyweights go in search of wreckage? I dont think the multinational rescue effort would want to be beaten to the wrecage by a fisherman in his beaten up wooden boat,
The sea depth is estimated to be between 50 and 120m in the main search area - I would assume that the kit needed to locate the FDR and CVR should already be with the S&R crews - in water at that depth it should be possible to recieve the pings emitted by these devices and recover them with relative ease but this assumes they are searching in the right area.
10 March 2014, 07:23 PM
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Fully agree - but nothing as yet - so strange its getting to the point where I am now wondering if it will ever be found... I am going for the ditching option and its sunk intact.
