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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
And to answer Turbohot - if everyone earnt the same there would have to be massive tax rates - don't forget the top 1% earners contribute 29% of total tax paid...
Yeah! Then as well people will kick off. Not easy, that.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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Countrys on its ****,Governments corrupt,immigrants taking all our jobs,200 years ago the people would have stormed the castle


200 years ago we were too busy raping the thirld world.
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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200 years ago we were too busy raping the thirld world.
The elite STILL are raping the world.
Us peasants pay for the elite to live life on a hugely different scale to us.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106

I though Socialism was all about fairness?
It is about envy my friend - nothing else.
Socialism is the opiate of the masses.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

If you qualify to pay 50% tax you are not exactly on the breadline so stop f**king moaning.
If you extrapolate all this sort of thinking then I would rather pay less tax as I have no kids to educate etc. and I object to paying for yours!!! So on and so forth!
In the first instance - get an accountant.
In the second - your taxes aren't paying for the education of children, they are paying for YOUR education. Think of it as a long term student loan, if that helps.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Forget a pay rise I wouldn't give you a job in the first place
You wouldent get me to work for you anyway, So I'm not really given a to$$.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Wht a bunch of selfish moaning w4nkers you lot are. We are supposed to be a civilised society where those less fortunate get helped by those more fortunate. That at the end of the day is the crux of nearly all Western economies... and most of those are capitalist not socialist!

If you qualify to pay 50% tax you are not exactly on the breadline so stop f**king moaning. If you extrapolate all this sort of thinking then I would rather pay less tax as I have no kids to educate etc. and I object to paying for yours!!! So on and so forth!
Haa!! Seems to be alot more than Me, you and Alcazar moaning now, even the ones who were calling us moaners are moaning, the irony!

GIRFUY's!
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Haa!! Seems to be alot more than Me, you and Alcazar moaning now, even the ones who were calling us moaners are moaning, the irony!

GIRFUY's!
I know, was thiniking the same myself last night
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
You wouldent get me to work for you anyway, So I'm not really given a to$$.
Don't worry, you could get a job as an english teacher these days.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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All good for us but I still like moaning.
And we are still all doomed
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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am i allowed to moan about the unbeliveble cost of taking my familly (all 7 of us) skiing over half term
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Is that the half term proper
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Politicians must **** themselves stupid watching people argue over the detail at the edge - as they plunder the "hard working families" left right and center. Anything more complicated than a headline grabbing percentage and its just too hard so gets ignored.

e.g. Brown's raid on Pension dividend income or Cameron's Child benefit withdrawal.

Everyone focussing on 45% to 50% for>£150 which is fine "Because they're rich" and totally ignoring the impact of child benefit withdrawl between £50K and £60K.

2 Children....thats 58% effective income tax please on every pound between £50K and £60K.
4 Children....thats 73% please.

Withdrawl of personal allowance between £100K and £120K...thats an effective 60% tax band. If only, just once, there was a concerted effort to remove all the tinkering to make the whole system so much clearer.

The graphs are the total % of income paid in income tax and the effective marginal tax rate as you move up the income scale. I keep meaning to add in the NI aswell but havent been arsed yet.

50% debate...."great politics, lousy economics" is by far the best summary ever.

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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
am i allowed to moan about the unbeliveble cost of taking my familly (all 7 of us) skiing over half term

No.


We didn't ask you to have that many children.
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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Re 50% tax rate

Surely those who are better off pay more money into the economy anyway so why tax them more?

The more affluent you are more likely you are go to restaurants, buy new cars, go on expensive holidays. All of those things put money into a business somewhere, who employ someone to cook the meal, sell/service the car, arrange the holiday....

Money is like water, it always trickles down....
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Is that the half term proper
Yes,

We usually go in April, but a couple of things are conspiring against us this year

1. Easter is late
2. My eldest has her AS level exams just after Easter and told us she would not come if we went at Easter

Oh and wealth does not really trickle down - that is a myth perpertrated by the err wealthy
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
No.


We didn't ask you to have that many children.
Oh, and bought the wife a TV for Xmas, so that's sorted
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Oh, and bought the wife a TV for Xmas, so that's sorted
Congratulations.
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Oh, and bought the wife a TV for Xmas, so that's sorted
Now you can watch all of the **** that you say you don't
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