Clutch change hints & tips
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Doesn't the clutch you bought come with an elignment tool? I'm doing mine next week just been reading this http://www.iwsti.com/forums/how-inst...method-gd.html
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You have to remove the prop shaft and drain all the fluid from the box.
the shafts are east yo remove once the rear support is off as you can move the box side to side to get the shafts out and then undo all the bolts on the box roll it back and do the clutch
The guide I used
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t128...pictorial.html
the shafts are east yo remove once the rear support is off as you can move the box side to side to get the shafts out and then undo all the bolts on the box roll it back and do the clutch
The guide I used
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t128...pictorial.html
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Doesn't the clutch you bought come with an elignment tool? I'm doing mine next week just been reading this http://www.iwsti.com/forums/how-inst...method-gd.html
In the exedy pink kit I bought I got no grease
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Right update .....
Thursday : disconnected most of the pipe work that needed to be done.
Friday : well today was an experience, I have removed plenty of engines gearbox etc but this one proved to be the hardest of the lot, removed dp and the clutch pin aswell as the bell housing bolts nuts & finally the engine mount nuts ...... Would the engine and gearbox separate !! Errr no tried all sorts to get It to part was as stubborn as a mule...
Finally after about 3hrs I got it parted in brutal fashion all I will say is hammer & screw driver not to mention the crow bar !! To be fair no damage was done few light marks to block, but just happy to get it parted with no damage.
Clutch on etc, now just at the stage where u get the box and engine to mate again then the light disappears so tool away till tomorrow.
Thursday : disconnected most of the pipe work that needed to be done.
Friday : well today was an experience, I have removed plenty of engines gearbox etc but this one proved to be the hardest of the lot, removed dp and the clutch pin aswell as the bell housing bolts nuts & finally the engine mount nuts ...... Would the engine and gearbox separate !! Errr no tried all sorts to get It to part was as stubborn as a mule...
Finally after about 3hrs I got it parted in brutal fashion all I will say is hammer & screw driver not to mention the crow bar !! To be fair no damage was done few light marks to block, but just happy to get it parted with no damage.
Clutch on etc, now just at the stage where u get the box and engine to mate again then the light disappears so tool away till tomorrow.
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Right update .....
Thursday : disconnected most of the pipe work that needed to be done.
Friday : well today was an experience, I have removed plenty of engines gearbox etc but this one proved to be the hardest of the lot, removed dp and the clutch pin aswell as the bell housing bolts nuts & finally the engine mount nuts ...... Would the engine and gearbox separate !! Errr no tried all sorts to get It to part was as stubborn as a mule...
Finally after about 3hrs I got it parted in brutal fashion all I will say is hammer & screw driver not to mention the crow bar !! To be fair no damage was done few light marks to block, but just happy to get it parted with no damage.
Clutch on etc, now just at the stage where u get the box and engine to mate again then the light disappears so tool away till tomorrow.
Thursday : disconnected most of the pipe work that needed to be done.
Friday : well today was an experience, I have removed plenty of engines gearbox etc but this one proved to be the hardest of the lot, removed dp and the clutch pin aswell as the bell housing bolts nuts & finally the engine mount nuts ...... Would the engine and gearbox separate !! Errr no tried all sorts to get It to part was as stubborn as a mule...
Finally after about 3hrs I got it parted in brutal fashion all I will say is hammer & screw driver not to mention the crow bar !! To be fair no damage was done few light marks to block, but just happy to get it parted with no damage.
Clutch on etc, now just at the stage where u get the box and engine to mate again then the light disappears so tool away till tomorrow.
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Ffs ...... Car won't go into gear, Basicly without engine running the car goes into gear when car is running the I cannot put car in gear its like hitting a wall, if I try putting it into reverse it grinds any thoughts or shall I start a new thread .
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Mine was like that friday night, its been off the road 5 weeks and the friction plate had stuck to the fly. engine off could select gears, running no chance. so started it in gear, clutch in and it was fine.
But yours wont be stuck as its a new one.
But yeah, did you push the fork towards the bulk head to set the release bearing?
Is the clutch arm moving when you press the pedal?
But yours wont be stuck as its a new one.
But yeah, did you push the fork towards the bulk head to set the release bearing?
Is the clutch arm moving when you press the pedal?
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need to take slave cylinder of and push the fork to engage the bearing, if you havent aleady bent something that is. This is the forst thin to do to ensure that the clutch is working, before building it all back up. Not hard to whip the engine back out at this stage. I had to take my engine out for the same reason.
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Mine was like that friday night, its been off the road 5 weeks and the friction plate had stuck to the fly. engine off could select gears, running no chance. so started it in gear, clutch in and it was fine.
But yours wont be stuck as its a new one.
But yeah, did you push the fork towards the bulk head to set the release bearing?
Is the clutch arm moving when you press the pedal?
But yours wont be stuck as its a new one.
But yeah, did you push the fork towards the bulk head to set the release bearing?
Is the clutch arm moving when you press the pedal?
I believe the clutch bearing is engaged to the pressure plate I even took the slave of this morning to see if I could push it back any further but won't when I look through the cluch fork cover it looks inplace ...
The cutch fork is 100% moving when pressing the pedal
Still the problem continues, engine off will go into gear engine running just like hitting a wall, no grinding it just won't go into gear
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As far as I can guess no damage has been done but just won't select as gear although I can get reverse but starts to grind so I don't go there.
When is the correct time to engauge the clutch baring to pressure plate I done it once the box and block were fully bolted to each other only issue is there is no way of knowing it has seated correctly
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If there are any clutch experts out the can u drop me a pm with a number and I will give you a quick call as I'm lost at what to do bar starting stip the engine down again
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Just whip the engine out again. When you put it back in put two opposite bell housing bolts in and then check the clutch before you go any further. Chance maybe that you have let the bearing drop off the fork or the tabs on the bearing may be bent. Thats the only thing it can be. the only other option you have (and its a long shot) is to remove the clutch pin and see if you can hook the bearing on properly. If its already hooked on and engaged fully in the clutch cover then you have no choice but to pull the engine.
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I dont know if you can get it wrong, but have you got the correct clutch?
on later cars they are push type, on mine its a pull one but not sure if the fork etc is the same?
if it is engaged properly then the clutch fork will be stiff and wont move much.
on later cars they are push type, on mine its a pull one but not sure if the fork etc is the same?
if it is engaged properly then the clutch fork will be stiff and wont move much.
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Gonna pull engine tomoro folks just me myself and I
not really sure u can do this with one person but gonna give it ago, should get a helping hand late evening hopfully ...
Ok cupple of questions,
1, if I pull engine and the bearing are engaged wtf do I do then, I'm hoping I don't have to pull engine out compleatly but from what I can see the bearing are engaged if there not then job done but if they are then what do i do... Will I need to speak to the people who supplied clutch.
2, wish me luck lol think I'm gonna need it !! Cannot believe I'm gonna have to do this twice !!
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Ok cupple of questions,
1, if I pull engine and the bearing are engaged wtf do I do then, I'm hoping I don't have to pull engine out compleatly but from what I can see the bearing are engaged if there not then job done but if they are then what do i do... Will I need to speak to the people who supplied clutch.
2, wish me luck lol think I'm gonna need it !! Cannot believe I'm gonna have to do this twice !!
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Have you put the centre plate in the correct way round? to check. 'flat to flywheel' is an old saying and most clutches go this way round. The are some exceptions to the rule. But very few.
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If the bearing is engaged then just get a screwdriver on the snap ring on the back, it will soon come off. then re insert the snap ring. Look at your old one??
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Hi dan ....
Well Basicly I started on it at 8.30am yesterday morning worked on it till 11.30 unfortunatly it then decided to rain for the rest of the day
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I don't have a garage so all the work is getting done on a drive, the engine is Basicly ready to be pulled bar the bell housing bolts / nuts so just need a 2 / 3 hour window to have a look at the clutch properly.
Hoping the rain holds of this morning if it dose I'm back on it
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I was toying with changing the clutch on my car myself too........
This thread has convinced me to get a garage to do it instead. I know I'm a chicken, but sometimes it's better to be a chicken than a turkey.
All that said, well done for having the ***** to have a go, and I hope you get it sorted (when it stops raining)
This thread has convinced me to get a garage to do it instead. I know I'm a chicken, but sometimes it's better to be a chicken than a turkey.
All that said, well done for having the ***** to have a go, and I hope you get it sorted (when it stops raining)
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the rain really got on my **** the last few weeks too. i removed my gearbox and got soaked, done some other jobs and got soaked, put a gearbox back in and just finished when it rained so missed that one lol. then sunday got soaked!
but the car is now running again lol
kerbside motorsport sucks!
but the car is now running again lol
kerbside motorsport sucks!
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Right !! Engine is separated from box and guess what ....!!! The release bearings are in position on the pressure plate
now what do I do I was praying they was disconnected so a simple fix but it's not the case
Any thoughts on what to do next, thanks for all ur helps guys !
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Any thoughts on what to do next, thanks for all ur helps guys !
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I don't think I've seen a push type before so couldn't tell u but its the same as the previous one installed. Basicly the release bearing when tight to cluch pull outwards don't go in if that makes sense I'm gonna google quick the code on the side of the box... Will let u no in a min
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Get some pictures up, one of the fork and one of the bearing where the fork goes in, when putting the engine on the bearing has to be fully towards the gearbox, the fork fully towards the engine if you like.
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Hi dan ....
Well Basicly I started on it at 8.30am yesterday morning worked on it till 11.30 unfortunatly it then decided to rain for the rest of the day![Brickwall](images/smilies/brickwall.gif)
I don't have a garage so all the work is getting done on a drive, the engine is Basicly ready to be pulled bar the bell housing bolts / nuts so just need a 2 / 3 hour window to have a look at the clutch properly.
Hoping the rain holds of this morning if it dose I'm back on it![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Well Basicly I started on it at 8.30am yesterday morning worked on it till 11.30 unfortunatly it then decided to rain for the rest of the day
![Brickwall](images/smilies/brickwall.gif)
I don't have a garage so all the work is getting done on a drive, the engine is Basicly ready to be pulled bar the bell housing bolts / nuts so just need a 2 / 3 hour window to have a look at the clutch properly.
Hoping the rain holds of this morning if it dose I'm back on it
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Let us know how you get on, unfortionatly I can't help you as this is going to be my first clutch change on a scoobie and I'm going for the car on axel stands approach lol. Good luck
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Hi dan ..... How did it go today, I have my engine back inplace just need to fit all pipework and coolant and see what happens, I have a feeling that the reason I could not get it working was the slave needing bleeding but I guess I will find out tomoro ... Hope urs all went well let me no how u got on
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Hi dan ..... How did it go today, I have my engine back inplace just need to fit all pipework and coolant and see what happens, I have a feeling that the reason I could not get it working was the slave needing bleeding but I guess I will find out tomoro ... Hope urs all went well let me no how u got on ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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