Best Future Classic?
10 January 2014, 10:59 AM
#61
Subjective.
The thing with all modified cars is that it's personal. You will very rarely if ever see a modified car at the proper bespoke auctions or for sale selling at high prices.
The real money is with original or restored classic cars. You don't see slammed, white line snorting, pimped, stretched tyre Cosworth/Escorts/UrQuattro's/Porsches/Ferrari/Merc/VW's etc etc. People who appreciate cars like original.
The more people *******ise/chop/chav up/neglect their cars the more attractive an original and unmolested car becomes.
Mythbusters did polish a turd, but underneath it was still a turd.
The thing with all modified cars is that it's personal. You will very rarely if ever see a modified car at the proper bespoke auctions or for sale selling at high prices.
The real money is with original or restored classic cars. You don't see slammed, white line snorting, pimped, stretched tyre Cosworth/Escorts/UrQuattro's/Porsches/Ferrari/Merc/VW's etc etc. People who appreciate cars like original.
The more people *******ise/chop/chav up/neglect their cars the more attractive an original and unmolested car becomes.
Mythbusters did polish a turd, but underneath it was still a turd.
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10 January 2014, 04:44 PM
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Track/rally prepared mk 1 and mk2 escorts fetch a small fortune....the rally pedigree and preperation doesn't seem to affect there value ...
Depends on how its been modified .....
Depends on how its been modified .....
10 January 2014, 04:50 PM
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What about the 555 RA V-Limited Editions? Are they up to much? The lad I bought my WRX Wagon from owns one and said that he's tucked his up as a longer term investment.
10 January 2014, 05:07 PM
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All this one model commands a premium over another is all very well but has nothing to do with a model attaining 'classic' status.
Sorry, but the only Impreza that will be a genuine classic is the 22B. End of!
Sorry, but the only Impreza that will be a genuine classic is the 22B. End of!
10 January 2014, 05:19 PM
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I have to disagree chris, plenty of bog basic standard cars get to classic status, mini is a perfect example, even an 850cc automatic will command good money and have the rarity value, it will be the same with all subarus of this era in 20yrs when there's bugger all of them left out there, you'll be at the post office in OZ collecting your pension and some old boy will pull up in his turbo 2000 and you'll reminisce about yours and offer to swap your AMG for it.
10 January 2014, 05:59 PM
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I have to disagree chris, plenty of bog basic standard cars get to classic status, mini is a perfect example, even an 850cc automatic will command good money and have the rarity value, it will be the same with all subarus of this era in 20yrs when there's bugger all of them left out there, you'll be at the post office in OZ collecting your pension and some old boy will pull up in his turbo 2000 and you'll reminisce about yours and offer to swap your AMG for it.
I totally get the 22B thing. I've come from a Vauxhall background where the Astra GTE 16v and The MK3 Cav GSi (even though it was a 4x4 turbo shell in BTCC) have legendary status due to winning in motorsport. It bought the values of the lower models up too but obviously those two in particular stood out from the more basic ones.
I can't help but think an original UK turbo 2000 will do well as technically it garnered the audience that then related to WRC and gave legend to one particular 22B. Any Classic shape is going to garner classic status by virtue of age at some point, it's just that particular 2 door is that bit more special.
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10 January 2014, 06:49 PM
#77
The V3 had the older clocks didn't it ditch? Was the whole dash reshaped for the v4?
10 January 2014, 07:32 PM
#78
any Scooby given enough time and quantity remaining etc will make a decent classic.
the same with any other marque.
when i bough my 1st car, vivas, mk1 escorts, chevettes, minis etc were selling for £50....now look at the prices.
i had a couple of mk1 Astra GTEs and remember having this same discussion when i sold them and it was deemed that they would be worth pennies and would never be classics.....now try and find a decent one for under £5k....... enough said.
the same with any other marque.
when i bough my 1st car, vivas, mk1 escorts, chevettes, minis etc were selling for £50....now look at the prices.
i had a couple of mk1 Astra GTEs and remember having this same discussion when i sold them and it was deemed that they would be worth pennies and would never be classics.....now try and find a decent one for under £5k....... enough said.
10 January 2014, 08:24 PM
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I have my RB320, No 004, 18,000 miles, tucked away.
Only 251 left :-)
Money still going down for them at the minute, but I have plenty of time to allow it to turn around & start going up again.
Only 251 left :-)
Money still going down for them at the minute, but I have plenty of time to allow it to turn around & start going up again.
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10 January 2014, 09:51 PM
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any Scooby given enough time and quantity remaining etc will make a decent classic.
the same with any other marque.
when i bough my 1st car, vivas, mk1 escorts, chevettes, minis etc were selling for £50....now look at the prices.
i had a couple of mk1 Astra GTEs and remember having this same discussion when i sold them and it was deemed that they would be worth pennies and would never be classics.....now try and find a decent one for under £5k....... enough said.
the same with any other marque.
when i bough my 1st car, vivas, mk1 escorts, chevettes, minis etc were selling for £50....now look at the prices.
i had a couple of mk1 Astra GTEs and remember having this same discussion when i sold them and it was deemed that they would be worth pennies and would never be classics.....now try and find a decent one for under £5k....... enough said.
Triumph dolomites and Stags, what a bag of **** the Stags were but find a nice one now for less than 15k, even one of my first cars a mk4 Cortina would fetch £5k+ now and it was a piece of ****, but great fun at the time and a babe magnet too.
11 January 2014, 12:05 AM
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I can't help but think an original UK turbo 2000 will do well as technically it garnered the audience that then related to WRC and gave legend to one particular 22B. Any Classic shape is going to garner classic status by virtue of age at some point, it's just that particular 2 door is that bit more special.
agreed
11 January 2014, 12:18 AM
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Yeah but IMO true classics are cars that command prices way above their original price and way above other similar cars of the time. Sure cars like Mk1 Astra GTEs may be fetching £5K, but it's hardly serious investment fodder is it?
Look at cars like the Aston Martin DB5 - cost the same as an E Type (which is a classic itself anyway with Series 1s going for £80K) yet worth way more than that now.... £600K for a mint one.
In many years time the 22B will be the car that people pay a massive premium for, other Impreza models may fetch OK money and still be loved by fans of the marque, but the only one with any serious investment potential is the 22B!
Look at cars like the Aston Martin DB5 - cost the same as an E Type (which is a classic itself anyway with Series 1s going for £80K) yet worth way more than that now.... £600K for a mint one.
In many years time the 22B will be the car that people pay a massive premium for, other Impreza models may fetch OK money and still be loved by fans of the marque, but the only one with any serious investment potential is the 22B!
11 January 2014, 12:23 AM
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131 Supermirafiori 1600TC - 96bhp, RWD. (The 132 was its boring replacement).
My first own car. In Metallic Blue. Bloody loved it. Fond memories.
However, I always hankered after the Mirafiori Sport 2000TC (115bhp, with the twin round headlights and cheesegrater grille).
(The 132 was its boring replacement).My first own car. In Metallic Blue. Bloody loved it. Fond memories.
However, I always hankered after the Mirafiori Sport 2000TC (115bhp, with the twin round headlights and cheesegrater grille).
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11 January 2014, 01:05 AM
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22b uk spec or jap,spec not messed with the odd totally original p 1 .
Other Marques escort cosworth with full history and original and the same with lancia delta integrate .,also the odd Peugeot 205 gti looked after are fetching good money .
Other Marques escort cosworth with full history and original and the same with lancia delta integrate .,also the odd Peugeot 205 gti looked after are fetching good money .
11 January 2014, 01:34 AM
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I've bought a p1 shell which is currently being restored back to it's original state. No rust on it. It wont be totally standard but I will keep standard items for future reference. It's my project but also an investment. But I will be keeping for years. Atleast 10 I would say.