P1/STi Red Shock, Bilstein WR Shock, P1 Red Springs & WR Blue Springs Discussion
#61
Really interesting post, just the sort of info we need.
Other than, trying to spit you off the road!, did you ever feel like your first bilstein/eibach combination was too stiff for a daily driver? Or did the fun factor over-ride the reduced comfort?
Should have some definite answers soon, as to what spring rates you were running.
Other than, trying to spit you off the road!, did you ever feel like your first bilstein/eibach combination was too stiff for a daily driver? Or did the fun factor over-ride the reduced comfort?
Should have some definite answers soon, as to what spring rates you were running.
I actually bought the car from a guy up in Scotland who had an m5 and used the scoob for track days, it was obviously set up very well as it had everything sorted, anti lift front strut brace and importantly a geometry alignment. Probably the best car I have driven to date and I've owned a few now!
Fun factor was mega high, I should never of sold that car:-( Also it went v very well for only a prodrive ecu'd classic, lost very little ground to a friends 311bho classic??
I definatly could of lived with the suspension but I had to back off on known corners and also straight line compressions actually winded me a few times!
Last edited by maff125; 20 January 2014 at 09:02 PM.
#62
Interesting stuff and I can concurr that the Grey spring I tried on the rear was siffer then the blue, and on one corner I did experience mid-bend kick-back. But I put this down to my 24mm ARB rather then the spring.
I am not sure how the Blue and STi Pink would fair on the same corner, as I am not sure I would want to give it the same level of attack......it was a bit of an eye widening & sphincter closing experience.
I am not sure how the Blue and STi Pink would fair on the same corner, as I am not sure I would want to give it the same level of attack......it was a bit of an eye widening & sphincter closing experience.
#63
hi guys iv just read this entire thread as i have the WR silver bilstein dampers with blue springs on my rb5 and they have been on since new in 1999 ... down side is that i have just removed them to clean and repaint to find that half a coil fell out so i am looking for preferebly a blue front spring to match the rest, or a set which is obviously like finding Hens teeth. Just to add my 2 pence worth i always found the new tyres used to upset the rear handling with these and in the WRSport brochure it mentions the handling pack with antiroll bar aswell
http://www.subaru-impreza.org/downlo...F%20MANUAL.pdf
http://www.subaru-impreza.org/downlo...F%20MANUAL.pdf
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hi guys iv just read this entire thread as i have the WR silver bilstein dampers with blue springs on my rb5 and they have been on since new in 1999 ... down side is that i have just removed them to clean and repaint to find that half a coil fell out so i am looking for preferebly a blue front spring to match the rest, or a set which is obviously like finding Hens teeth. Just to add my 2 pence worth i always found the new tyres used to upset the rear handling with these and in the WRSport brochure it mentions the handling pack with antiroll bar aswell
http://www.subaru-impreza.org/downlo...F%20MANUAL.pdf
http://www.subaru-impreza.org/downlo...F%20MANUAL.pdf
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i see , i dont know the part numbers as they are a bit scabby now and the stickers arent there.... il check the rears as i will be removing them in the next few days to see the condition
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Anyway part number on the blue front springs are eibach 2040055040 49/97
Bilstein Sti Prodrive front dampers LH/RH 2030055120 7304261M000
I dont think the shocks are repairable, but im keen to fit the springs with a matching pair of rears. If the springs are going to lower the car by a noticeable amount.
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Hi gang..
this is an issue I'm currently looking to reslove for my STi v3.
I'm looking for the sti pink springs as I think they'll be closest to the OEM "sti" springs, but cant seem to locate a set of four anywhere... where do you guys source these from?
any help would be appreciated
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this is an issue I'm currently looking to reslove for my STi v3.
I'm looking for the sti pink springs as I think they'll be closest to the OEM "sti" springs, but cant seem to locate a set of four anywhere... where do you guys source these from?
any help would be appreciated
regards
Mikey
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... just remembered, am also looking for a set of dampers, so if there are any folk out there that know of any classic fitment STI spec damper suppliers I'd be very grateful - i'd even stretch to offering a cuppa
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Hi gang..
this is an issue I'm currently looking to reslove for my STi v3.
I'm looking for the sti pink springs as I think they'll be closest to the OEM "sti" springs, but cant seem to locate a set of four anywhere... where do you guys source these from?
any help would be appreciated
regards
Mikey
this is an issue I'm currently looking to reslove for my STi v3.
I'm looking for the sti pink springs as I think they'll be closest to the OEM "sti" springs, but cant seem to locate a set of four anywhere... where do you guys source these from?
any help would be appreciated
regards
Mikey
We are looking at producing a sample of this spring.
As far as new dampers are concerned KYB agx's or koni inserts, would work.
KYB excel-g are also avaiable, but would have to use a lower rated spring. We are, however, investigating a lowered spring set for that damper.
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Dug the shocks and springs out yesterday, got some photos but i cannot see how to upload them. I'm trying the app but this is no better (sorry but im new to forums).
Anyway part number on the blue front springs are eibach 2040055040 49/97
Bilstein Sti Prodrive front dampers LH/RH 2030055120 7304261M000
I dont think the shocks are repairable, but im keen to fit the springs with a matching pair of rears. If the springs are going to lower the car by a noticeable amount.
Anyway part number on the blue front springs are eibach 2040055040 49/97
Bilstein Sti Prodrive front dampers LH/RH 2030055120 7304261M000
I dont think the shocks are repairable, but im keen to fit the springs with a matching pair of rears. If the springs are going to lower the car by a noticeable amount.
A rear spring set, to match your fronts, is on the sample list.
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That blue classic spring on the right, is becoming very interesting. It uses a partly flat section to the top coil, giving a nice level, stable top mount - just like the sti tarmac springs. Be interesting as to extra cost of that finish.
Also, the rating is higher, and coil structure is different, to the typical wr blue front 2040055040 - a linear version of that right hand blue, at the correct height, might be interesting.
Also, the rating is higher, and coil structure is different, to the typical wr blue front 2040055040 - a linear version of that right hand blue, at the correct height, might be interesting.
Last edited by 2pot; 31 January 2014 at 08:15 PM.
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Update with Spring rates from most of the selection tried/measured :
Note : Ride Height measured : Floor-2-Arch, 18 inch alloys, 35 profile tyres
FRONTS :
P1 Red 648mm, measured at 206lbs/in
WR Blue 627mm, measured at 215lbs/in
STi Pink 'Lowered' 632mm, rated at 196lb/in
Eibach Pro Black 648mm, rated at 171lbs/in (http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/spring/spring.html)
REARS :
P1 Red 645mm, measured at 189lbs/in
WR 070 Blue 637mm, measured at 155lbs/in
WR C35 Grey 639mm, measured at 206lb/in
STi Pink 'Lowered' 632mm, rated at 172lb/in
Eibach Pro Black 652mm, rated at 188lbs/in (http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/spring/spring.html)
Mark, please update with spring rates from the 2nd set of measurements...thanks....
Note : Ride Height measured : Floor-2-Arch, 18 inch alloys, 35 profile tyres
FRONTS :
P1 Red 648mm, measured at 206lbs/in
WR Blue 627mm, measured at 215lbs/in
STi Pink 'Lowered' 632mm, rated at 196lb/in
Eibach Pro Black 648mm, rated at 171lbs/in (http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/spring/spring.html)
REARS :
P1 Red 645mm, measured at 189lbs/in
WR 070 Blue 637mm, measured at 155lbs/in
WR C35 Grey 639mm, measured at 206lb/in
STi Pink 'Lowered' 632mm, rated at 172lb/in
Eibach Pro Black 652mm, rated at 188lbs/in (http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/spring/spring.html)
Mark, please update with spring rates from the 2nd set of measurements...thanks....
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Classic Bump stops Bumpstops
Been investigating bump stops (micro-cellular jounce bumpers!) for lowered springs.
Obviously you can cut down existing stops.
But what about something new.
There's:
2 x Kyb SB103 front 44mm stop with boot - listed as stock height? - can't be cut down
2 x Kyb SB102 rear 96mm stop with boot - stock height - can't be cut down
But what about urethane:
Front Powerflex BS001 33mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Front Powerflex BS005 48mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Front Powerflex BS006 54mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top. Could use new Febi 1367 or Meyle 1004130000 dust boots.
Rear Powerflex BS2001K 85mm tall - comes with dust boots. But, fits better inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Anyone ever bought new oem?
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If anyones got any other solutions, I like to know about them
Been investigating bump stops (micro-cellular jounce bumpers!) for lowered springs.
Obviously you can cut down existing stops.
But what about something new.
There's:
2 x Kyb SB103 front 44mm stop with boot - listed as stock height? - can't be cut down
2 x Kyb SB102 rear 96mm stop with boot - stock height - can't be cut down
But what about urethane:
Front Powerflex BS001 33mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Front Powerflex BS005 48mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Front Powerflex BS006 54mm tall. Fits inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top. Could use new Febi 1367 or Meyle 1004130000 dust boots.
Rear Powerflex BS2001K 85mm tall - comes with dust boots. But, fits better inside Subaru dust boot, if smaller end of stop is at the top.
Anyone ever bought new oem?
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If anyones got any other solutions, I like to know about them
Last edited by 2pot; 30 April 2014 at 11:52 PM.