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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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LOL I tend to avoid it when I'm in a bad mood as its guaranteed to infuriate me further.
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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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I hope that in the name of balance he also mentioned that 65 Million Britons enjoy freedom of movement across the EU. A right he wants to take away!!
You're being silly again, I doubt that we would get the same deal if we went anywhere else in the EU compared with what the EU immigrants get when they come here courtesy of you and I.

Some EU countries aren't even excepting the E111.

And by the way, I had freedom of movement years ago across Europe before the EU with my old BRITISH passport.
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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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I confess to frequently shouting at the telly when QT is on. That and annoying the fluck out of lefties in Twatter.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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I quite enjoy watching QT and I think that Farage is a pretty sensible bloke in most respects.

The one thing that does annoy me is when Dimblebum persists in interrupting people or interrupting them when they are trying to make a valid point. He can really be very bad mannered and also ruin a person's statement.

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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Fairly entertaining QT this evening. Farage and Brand and Brand getting his **** handed to him by an audience member.
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Fairly entertaining QT this evening. Farage and Brand and Brand getting his **** handed to him by an audience member.

Yes, but the lady with blue hair gave that audience member a migraine. Jesus!
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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Brand being the usual cockjockey he is. I'm no fan of Farage but seeing him take notes against each other speaker and proceed to rip them apart with their own words is how this is done.
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yes, but the lady with blue hair gave that audience member a migraine. Jesus!
No mic need for her!
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:16 PM
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Farage is a clever fake playing on peoples fears .....
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Farage is a clever fake playing on peoples fears .....
Just like Hitler...

I'm not blind, Faragexus persuasive and knows which buttons to press but his hidden agenda is deeply sinister.
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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True Matt,

But the underlying argument of haves and have nots has been all true prevalent through this debate. It's the politics of envy and jealousy, dividing the population. I fear for this country come the next election.
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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
True Matt,

But the underlying argument of haves and have nots has been all true prevalent through this debate. It's the politics of envy and jealousy, dividing the population. I fear for this country come the next election.
I do believe in a rebalancing of public sector pay, much more aggressive pursuit of taxes from corporations and individuals and a serious look at private sector ripping off of the NHS (and others).

This would have far more impact than immigration scare stories.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:06 AM
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Nigel Farage, the only one answering questions on Question Time.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Just like Hitler...

I'm not blind, Faragexus persuasive and knows which buttons to press but his hidden agenda is deeply sinister.
I wasn't expecting anyone to hit on Godwin's law so quickly after the latest QT.

And in true Godwins Law style, I must ask, in a Russell Brand-speak (or bollocks) have you just fallen foul of it which "cause the individual making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate".

So do you really support Farage or are you just talking **** like Russel Brand (and to be fair he's just a Marketing/PR's/TdW's wet dream, using 163 words to make a sentence that everyone else could make in 6 words).
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Just like Hitler...

I'm not blind, Faragexus persuasive and knows which buttons to press but his hidden agenda is deeply sinister.
Mattee are you high?

I'm not a UKIP fan but comparing him to Hitler is ludicrous.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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I was referring only to the previous post about playing on people's fears. That's what Hitler did. And many other despots in history.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
Nigel Farage, the only one answering questions on Question Time.
I have to hand it too him, Farage was the only one giving concise and credible answers to the issues raised along with the Times journalist on the end of the panel. Brand was being his usual self spouting the same old populist soundbites and the rhetoric until an audience member shut him up which knocked the wind out of him for the rest of the programme, what a cop-out!

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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I have to hand it too him, Farage was the only one giving concise and credible answers to the issues raised along with the Times journalist on the end of the panel. Brand was being his usual self spouting the same old populist soundbites and the rhetoric until an audience member shut him up which knocked the wind out of him for the rest of the programme, what a cop-out!
Yes, Farage was the only one who seemed to have straight answers, but the audience didn't seem to be convinced with his answers regardless.

Brand is certainly full of his usual bul1$h1t rhetoric and his constant attacks on his target. He's quite predictable, if not completely boring.

That audience member might have been successful in curbing Brand's loud voice with his even louder voice, but that's about it. Same quality as the intellectual Hitchens brothers; an ounce of which Brand possesses himself. I find such loudmouth arguers quite annoying, even when they're not always irrational. Empty vessels on a windy day.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yes, Farage was the only one who seemed to have straight answers, but the audience didn't seem to be convinced with his answers regardless.

Brand is certainly full of his usual bul1$h1t rhetoric and his constant attacks on his target. He's quite predictable, if not completely boring.

That audience member might have been successful in curbing Brand's loud voice with his even louder voice, but that's about it. Same quality as the intellectual Hitchens brothers; an ounce of which Brand possesses himself. I find such loudmouth arguers quite annoying, even when they're not always irrational. Empty vessels on a windy day.
It was a case of he who shouts loudest, how ironinc then that the first question from the audience was not wanting a "punch and judy" parliament, last night's QT tuned out no different . Of the other two politicians either side of DD, you really could tell which party they stood for.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yes, Farage was the only one who seemed to have straight answers, but the audience didn't seem to be convinced with his answers regardless.

Brand is certainly full of his usual bul1$h1t rhetoric and his constant attacks on his target. He's quite predictable, if not completely boring.

That audience member might have been successful in curbing Brand's loud voice with his even louder voice, but that's about it. Same quality as the intellectual Hitchens brothers; an ounce of which Brand possesses himself. I find such loudmouth arguers quite annoying, even when they're not always irrational. Empty vessels on a windy day.
The Hitchens brothers QT was incomparable; by far and away the best there's been. I really miss Christopher!
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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final saw some of this today, that woman with the hair, hahaha what a battelaxe she was. lol
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
final saw some of this today, that woman with the hair, hahaha what a battelaxe she was. lol
Bunny La Roche, SWP hard left activist, she has form shall we say. Amazing that a hard leftie got onto the show....! Nice put down from the other audience member though. People are starting to find their voice again against the leftie shouters
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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sooner or later its all gonna kick off. Look at all the stories in the press etc

people are becoming less tolerant of minority, immigrants etc the fact UKIP has risen to where it is is proof of it.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
I was referring only to the previous post about playing on people's fears. That's what Hitler did. And many other despots in history.
Many mainstream parties have done the same.

Labour, on coming to power in 1997, retained the hated Chris Woodhead as OFSTED Chief, even though Blair had said he was a disgrace, since Blunkett convinced Blair that he "had to be seen to be strong against teachers, since no-one likes teachers..."

This present lot have come in and, within three years of taking power, placed the blame for the country's economic problems squarely on the shoulders of the public sector, pensioners and now immigrants.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
The Hitchens brothers QT was incomparable; by far and away the best there's been. I really miss Christopher!
That's why I called them the 'intellectual' loudspeakers, not merely the loudspeakers. Hence their voice-curbing technique to win an argument is very comparable. Both brothers rendered noisy and aggressive rhetoric, and thought it was great. Luckily they had some substance.

Anyway, I liked Christopher more than the other one. The other one is always in a wound up state. He needs to take a chill pill.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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They'll be moving the show to ITV, sacking Dimbleby and putting Jeremy Kyle in his place soon!
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
sooner or later its all gonna kick off. Look at all the stories in the press etc

people are becoming less tolerant of minority, immigrants etc the fact UKIP has risen to where it is is proof of it.
Blatant propaganda.
It's not immigrants we should target, it's mega corporations and the elite shi77ing all over everyone.
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
True Matt,

But the underlying argument of haves and have nots has been all true prevalent through this debate. It's the politics of envy and jealousy, dividing the population. I fear for this country come the next election.
You are right.
There is a lot of this shown on here. "Maggies children" are rife.

"I'm alright jack" and "It's OK because it doesn't effect me in a bad way", or "it's good for me, personally, so the rest of the country can stick it..."

That last one was Lying Labour policy when they were one of only THREE EC countries to open the floodgates to Eastern European migrants. The other two had genuine need for low paid workers. We just put tens of thousand of our youth on the scapheap, then conned tens of thousands more into going to university and saddling themselves with b/s degrees and a nice big debt.

I'm not sure that some parts of this country will EVER recover.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
sooner or later its all gonna kick off. Look at all the stories in the press etc

people are becoming less tolerant of minority, immigrants etc the fact UKIP has risen to where it is is proof of it.
I think the halfway intelligent ones are entertained by the possibility Larfage can deliver/ force somekind of compromise on Europe
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Blatant propaganda.
It's not immigrants we should target, it's mega corporations and the elite shi77ing all over everyone.
Russell Brand obviously gets a vote here then....
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