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Old 23 September 2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by *matthewturb2000*
they get a second hand low mileage engine clean it all up in the machine and bang its refurbed and good to sell for 1400 fitted
That will do for me I was only going to get a secound hand engine myself and have my friend at welsh coast customs fit the engine , but engines are about 1200 on e bay plus you have to give them you're engine and have all the parts striped plus I could have engine fitted and if there's a problem I'm back to square one , if my secound hand engine is purchased and fited in the same place they can't pass the buck then. Plus they're the only people I've seen give a year warranty
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Reconditioned...

removed from knackered car and sprayed silver.
+1 that's about it and your lucky if they spray it silver a jet wash usually suffice's .SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi

+1 that's about it and your lucky if they spray it silver a jet wash usually suffice's .SJ.
All I'm expecting is another engine from a car being broke , not a brand new engine
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Originally Posted by JohnD

That's if he actually manages to get it back!
Were these the outfit on Rogue Traders?

JohnD
I'm not sure there's a couple of garages about with same name cardiff this one is
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Wig that's the thing though mate you pay the money without really knowing what your getting its like pot luck and after spending your £1400 I would of rather added a bit more and got a forged rebuild.or got an engine from a specialist who know what there selling and have a reputation to up hold.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Wig that's the thing though mate you pay the money without really knowing what your getting its like pot luck and after spending your £1400 I would of rather added a bit more and got a forged rebuild.or got an engine from a specialist who know what there selling and have a reputation to up hold.SJ.
A bit more its Like another 2600 just for the build
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Have you checked the subaru parts section on here there is always engines for sale sometimes forged got to be worth a look.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Have you checked the subaru parts section on here there is always engines for sale sometimes forged got to be worth a look.SJ.
No not yet I will have a look thanks
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Have you checked the subaru parts section on here there is always engines for sale sometimes forged got to be worth a look.SJ.
Where do I find them can't see any parts for sale page
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Originally Posted by Wig
Where do I find them can't see any parts for sale page
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-parts-451/
Old 23 September 2013, 10:09 PM
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Well it took me a while to read this thread but i have to give my 2 cents. Now i know everyone on here loves subarus but i think ye were all a bit harsh on Wig. I actually agree with original post to a point, Ive been driving subarus now for about 8 years and im currently on my 5th one, and I can safely say Ive had engine and all other kind of probs. I dont thrash them and are all very well serviced but still they blew engines etc. Even sti's. I do love subarus but at times I think back on how much money Ive dumped into these cars over the years. Before I had subarus I had a pulsar gtir and an lancer evo,Both never gave any trouble. I do actually think they are a weak engine and anyone that has never had one blow up is just lucky. They are a great car to drive etc but i do reckon they're not as strong as most other sports cars out there.
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Originally Posted by k-jones-087
Well it took me a while to read this thread but i have to give my 2 cents. Now i know everyone on here loves subarus but i think ye were all a bit harsh on Wig. I actually agree with original post to a point, Ive been driving subarus now for about 8 years and im currently on my 5th one, and I can safely say Ive had engine and all other kind of probs. I dont thrash them and are all very well serviced but still they blew engines etc. Even sti's. I do love subarus but at times I think back on how much money Ive dumped into these cars over the years. Before I had subarus I had a pulsar gtir and an lancer evo,Both never gave any trouble. I do actually think they are a weak engine and anyone that has never had one blow up is just lucky. They are a great car to drive etc but i do reckon they're not as strong as most other sports cars out there.
Exactly m8 this is how I feel ,I've had all sorts of cars I research and no most common faults on most cars and had common problems with some of them. But I've Neva had a engine go, and two in three months , after allot of research I've noticed there's loads wrx and sti which have spun bearings etc , I now see it as a common fault yea you can be lucky but just because you've had a subaru for a couple of years with no issues don't mean that the people before you Neva or that it won't happen to you in the future or the next person you sell car to, I no there's people that haven't had issues and some subarus go forever, its like vxr astras and the m32 gearbox there's loads that have gone threw gearboxes and some are on the origanal box at 100 k miles , most cars have some common weak points , subaru its engines lol , but just because I drive and love the subarus didn't mean I will defend them and pretend there indestructible too many cases to suggest otherwise for me , but hay I'm going to ride it out keep the subaru as I wanted to try one out , then I want to try a vxr I've heard of a couple of them blow but there not too bad apart from gearbox torque is incredible on these its way over the bhp they produce, there a serious car when they are rolling with the power down I would say and have seen them see of sti not of mark of course.and handling lol you got to hold on ha but its fun getting pulled into the curb ha you get used to it plus my friend can rebuild them , he had a 440 bhp nova lol now that was fast
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Originally Posted by Wig
Whish I could have limiter set for 5 k coz I will not go past that again can't cope with it they can't check the amount of spun bearings on you tube and the forums Nasty scooby poos
You can set the rev limiter to 5K...............its called your right foot

Having said that I think you have been very unlucky.........but I am curious, if you know about all these engine failures everywhere and you are so down on Subaru's....why did you buy 2 within the last few months??
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My problem was I wanted a subaru even thou I no people who have gone threw a couple of engines, and I didn't bother listening to people when they told me the engines wer **** lol still I no people who have had no problems I no of a sti classic running 400 bhp he's had it years and years but don't use it allot now he's on same engine it's just luck sometimes but hay there's loads of subarus on yer with issues there trying to sort out, I just whish car manufactures would offer better quality , its like rmz moto x bikes have week gearbox for decades but still they don't sort it out same as cars bikes etc renault sport clio I love them but gearbox has been weak for decades and still not resolved transit vans love to rust ha ha it's same old crap
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Originally Posted by S555 MKR

You can set the rev limiter to 5K...............its called your right foot

Having said that I think you have been very unlucky.........but I am curious, if you know about all these engine failures everywhere and you are so down on Subaru's....why did you buy 2 within the last few months??
Like I said I allways wanted to try one I want to try everything , if you read I've had two because they are from a dealer ,the first one went back a week later it had piston slap another common subaru issue that's been going on for decades but I give it a little stick on my 170 mile journey back to dealer as I didn't want a subaru with pistonslap all thou it has no effect on engine longitivity its not good if I wanted to re sell car sounded like a diesel, but guess what when I got there and the first wrx I had cooled down it had the dreaded rod nock yes another common subaru problem and is now down scoobybits for sale needing a new engine I thort ahh that's lucky must of bin a bad one , then guess what my mint as hell wrx 43 k miles spun a bearing all within 3 months I did do research prior to buying I new they wernt 100 percent but most cars aint but I tort as long as I be careful and very choosy in my purchase I would be ok long story short I no for a fact if I chose a ep3 or a vxr or a focus sti instead of the wrx hmmm I wonder if two engines would go in 3 months lol maybe I've had bad luck but come on any long time scooby addict will no of these problems they are common as there's loads of cases
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Wig I sympathise with your situation. I was in the same boat as you last year when I bought my classic impreza.
After the 50 mile drive home it sounded like a box of spanners being shook. I was really pissed off as the previous owner had a "recon" engine fitted less than 2000 miles earlier.
As I stripped the motor I found bodge after bodge, the thing was oozing instant gasket and every bolt had been over tightened. In fact it was a legacy engine. The previous owner paid £2k for the piece of crap from a place in Rainham Essex.

The only way you can have peace of mind is to build it yourself (if capable) or pay top dollar and take it to a real specialist.

£4k+ later I have an engine that I have total confidence in. Super car performance on the cheap?? No such thing Im afraid
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Best way to get super performance on the cheap is buy a car somebody's spent a fortune on ha, i just missed a nice astra Sri stage four all done by Courtney runing 279 bhp with 330 torque od it was only 2 grand ,there's also a couple of old gsi turbo runing 300 bhp out there for around same price my friend had one it was over 300 bhp with 400 torque it was a animal they seem to stay together well too its on you tube I raced him with my m5 and a Tvr started racing too and guess wot astra blew us all mind you I had issues with my m5 but I tink it would still dusted me easy beast
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Wig where you from out of curiosity as I'm local to welsh coast an I know a few lads with ep3's Astra GSI turbos and a galanza which is rampant, but no Astra GSI would beat an M5 running tidy, not a chance lol, they couldn't even out run my e36 m3 cab, and that was a supposedly 300+ Astra GSI phase 4 and I wiped the floor with them plus I got a 453bhp scoob still on standard engine, and anybody who knows me will tell you I drive it, you must have had a bad bit of luck there pal, they ain't all shìt.

And if your friends with welsh coast guys then why not buy an engine from the classifieds on here and get them to fit it, you may have a years warranty with that company, but if they say you have abused the engine you have to prove otherwise! They ain't daft bud and i would be very surprised if they stuck to their word, as all they have to do is say you have taken the engine out of its recommended limits, I.e long periods of flat out, foot down with temps going through the roof, you know the score just don't want to see another thread of "Never use the w*nkers of .......... " because odds on that's what way it will head.
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there is nothing wrong with subaru engines other than the 2.5 hg issues.
the problems arise when tools buy them and dont know what they are doing with them.
they modify them without mapping, blow them up and claim they are unreliable, when what is actually at fault is the idiot behind the wheel.
They then buy a cheap shonky second hand engine that on its last legs and suprise suprise it blows up too.

if you dont have the knowledge or finances to modify and run one properly it will always end in tears.
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Originally Posted by Infected by sti
Wig where you from out of curiosity as I'm local to welsh coast an I know a few lads with ep3's Astra GSI turbos and a galanza which is rampant, but no Astra GSI would beat an M5 running tidy, not a chance lol, they couldn't even out run my e36 m3 cab, and that was a supposedly 300+ Astra GSI phase 4 and I wiped the floor with them plus I got a 453bhp scoob still on standard engine, and anybody who knows me will tell you I drive it, you must have had a bad bit of luck there pal, they ain't all shìt.

And if your friends with welsh coast guys then why not buy an engine from the classifieds on here and get them to fit it, you may have a years warranty with that company, but if they say you have abused the engine you have to prove otherwise! They ain't daft bud and i would be very surprised if they stuck to their word, as all they have to do is say you have taken the engine out of its recommended limits, I.e long periods of flat out, foot down with temps going through the roof, you know the score just don't want to see another thread of "Never use the w*nkers of .......... " because odds on that's what way it will head.
I'm from newport I no they ain't all ****, yes burchie said he would fit a engine for me but then its having confidence in the engine I buy , ask burchie next time about when I raced beachum I was only looking at you tube earlyeir watching astra turbo dusting m5s don't get me wrong there fast but there heavy cars I've had 2 m5 and a evo m3 , a tuned astra turbo is not to be underestimated , if my subaru engines fails again and nat engine centre don't repair it within warranty period as it states in my contract I will break the car and buy another car cut my loses
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
there is nothing wrong with subaru engines other than the 2.5 hg issues.
the problems arise when tools buy them and dont know what they are doing with them.
they modify them without mapping, blow them up and claim they are unreliable, when what is actually at fault is the idiot behind the wheel.
They then buy a cheap shonky second hand engine that on its last legs and suprise suprise it blows up too.

if you dont have the knowledge or finances to modify and run one properly it will always end in tears.
Yes and this was what I was saying to my friends before two totally standard low mile engines went in 3 months I no it's bad luck prob both cars had ****e oil in them aswell but its hard to have any confidence in a car after this happens I do no how to look after a subaru
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Wouldn't disagree with that comment about tuned Astras bud we have had a few ourselves, and my buddy is currently putting a Astra VXR engine in his corsa with a gtx3070r blower strapped to it! That's going to be interesting I just don't think that the standard turbos on them are up to much, they roll off the numbers granted but they don't seem to perform the way the graphs would intend if you follow my drift, or at least in our experiences any way, we had one that was 300+ and a slightly tunned 172 had it pinned to the boards and that's no joke, was proper gob smacked, I still rather the LET engines myself, good motors they are when built right and with a good blower
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Originally Posted by Wig
Yes and this was what I was saying to my friends before two totally standard low mile engines went in 3 months I no it's bad luck prob both cars had ****e oil in them aswell but its hard to have any confidence in a car after this happens I do no how to look after a subaru
i disagree, confirmed by the fact your fitting a second hand engine of unknown mileage and life.

you are doing the job on the cheap so expect problems.

the correct way to do it is get a rebuild from a specialist then get the car mapped by a specialist.

what fuel are you using??
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Tubby how long you had that classic for I'm sure i seen it for sale but it mite of been a similar one
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Originally Posted by Wig
Tubby how long you had that classic for I'm sure i seen it for sale but it mite of been a similar one
i dont own a classic
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Originally Posted by Wig
Tubby how long you had that classic for I'm sure i seen it for sale but it mite of been a similar one
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I'm using v max nitro I was going to service every 3 k with gulf 5 40 mate problem is a full rebuild costs not far of what cars worth it aint economically feasible plus I was going to have it done but after reading threads about people's engines still going 12 k miles after a rebuild from a good tuning company it put me off ,I'm probably not going to keep the car but I will see how it goes its no sweat I've gone past caring now ha whatever happens happens I can buy 3 secound hand engines for the cost of a rebuild I can have them fited cheap so I'm not bothered
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Who's car is the red one on you're pic what car have you got
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Originally Posted by Wig
Who's car is the red one on you're pic what car have you got
He hates graphics and general chav attire, so I guess hes being ironic.
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tub hates most things from graphics to unicorns ...i mean who hates unicorns ?


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