Turbohot

'Want' is irrelevant. Fanaticism and conditioning seem to be relevant to something like that.

Turbohot

You can work it out, come on. It's not hard.

Mouser

I disagree.

Turbohot

Ok. What's your view on that?

Mouser

See below!

Simply put, women may indeed want to fight for their cause without being forced or brainwashed or coerced into doing so.

mrmadcap

Sorry, didn't realise they were Islamic Extremists with links to Al Qaeda.

Turbohot

Ok, this makes you disagreeing with your own post#28 in which you say-

About the 'cause' that you are mentioning, any cause for terrorism (which is the context here on this thread) is a product of fanaticism, and any irrational and barbaric act to cause terror against humanity needs conditioning hence you don't disagree with me.

Turbohot

No, but they had something in common i.e. terrorism/extremism, yes? Women can be believed to be a bit less oppressed in Sri Lankan cultural setting, and more in Islamic setting. But Tamil Tigers' madness-stroke-fanaticism about their issues and their extreme actions like suicide bombing to fight for their issues are comparable to what other extremists are doing. Female participation in terrorist/extremist brigades is not unheard of, and that's what I was putting forward.

Hope this is clear.

Mouser

You've confused me with the meaning of this paragraph.

I said I found that women supporting al-Shabab was surprising, I didn't say it didn't or couldn't happen.

dpb

Tamils were fighting for their own homeland??

Wereas these nutters just want people to conform to Islamic law

Turbohot

Now you're talking a difference, Duncan. Just like the similarities, there're bound to be the differences.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

They obviously want some virgins in the after life.

You have to be totally mental to do something like this, worse thing is they think this is a rational solution to their problems, a person or persons need to be way, way "out there" to come to a place where doing something like this seems like a good idea.

un-comprehendable for me.

tony de wonderful

It's surprising that some women wear the Niqab or Burka in the West - when they have a choice - but many do.

RA Dunk

For a peacefull religion they are not half misunderstood.

lol

dpb

British women among the gun men

RA Dunk

It's clear her loyalties lay elsewhere, she's not British in my eyes.

Leslie

How do you think it all started up in the first place-did it all appear from nothing?

Les

Leslie

If you look at what is taught and recommended by most religions, the followers are advised to lead what we would consider to be good unselfish lives.

The violence etc. which is practised by some followers is not so much down to the the religion concerned as the people themselves and their unfortunate interpretation of how the particular religion should be supported.

Les

Kwik

iTrader: (10)

It's strange how the same religion is misinterpreted regularly in different parts of the world, and usually by more than one person at a time.

zip106

Religion or the massacre?

If religion, then I believe someone had what they thought was a good idea for a novel, and it just escalated before they could tell everyone it was just a joke.

Whilst I'm not religious at all, neither am I a full blown (no pun intended) atheist, at least atheism is a not-for-Prophet society...

Kurse-030

Some media are reporting a Dutch man being arrested at Nairobi airport on his way to Turkey in relation to the shooting.
List of alledged attackers released on alledged Al Shabaab twitter account.
http://ojihad.wordpress.com/2013/09/...cked-westgate/

dpb

I reckon this will completely backfire on al shabab

c_maguire

You mean she's not English don't you? Or Welsh, Scottish or Irish.

She may well be British.

Anyhow, where is Shaid? He can tell you how it's all your fault anyway.

RA Dunk

I can see where your coming from TBH and your right, just cause someone might qualify for a passport it dosent make them British, especially if their loyalties lay elsewhere.

I'm sure Shaid will be along soon enough and tell us how we're all wrong.

Kwik

iTrader: (10)

The Foreign Office is investigating claims the wife of one of the 7/7 bombers is part of the terrorist group that carried out the Nairobi shopping mall massacre.

Samantha Lewthwaite, a convert to Islam, was the wife of Jermaine Lindsay and has herself been linked to terrorist activity.

The 29-year-old was wanted by Kenyan police over links to a suspected terrorist cell planning bomb attacks but fled to Somalia in March last year.

Sky News reported seeing a white woman carrying a weapon and wearing a balaclava among the attackers, who have killed scores of people, including four Britons.

A Twitter account claiming to be that of al-Shabaab, the terror group widely believed to be behind the attack, boasted of her involvement.

A tweet from the account, which has since been shut down, said: ‘Sherafiyah lewthwaite aka samantha is a vrave (sic) lady! were (sic) happier to have her in our ranks!’

Lewthwaite, who is originally from Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, is the daughter of a soldier who became a Muslim after studying for an A-level in religious studies.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/23/white-...ttack-4089460/

RA Dunk

Regardless of where abouts she comes from whether its here or afar I hope she gets one between the eyes for this.

hodgy0_2

I have just heard on the news a very British sounding voice claiming to be from al Shabab, exulting the shooters

What a sinister sounding ar5hole

RA Dunk

Hopefully there's a bullet with this scumbags name on it coming soon.

Is this what they are doing now is it executing prisoners? ******* low life scumbags I hope they rot in Hell.

hodgy0_2

Exulting, not executing

http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/exulting.htm

Martin2005

This has nothing whatsoever to do with religion, this is the murderous act of twisted individuals. Their religion didn't urge them to do this, they chose to.

To blame this on religion is an afront to people with faith (and i don't include myself in that)

Stop using this terrible situation as a stick to beat religion with!